Soap/Cleaner Taste at after Taste

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  1. MitchyTheKid

    MitchyTheKid Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2013 Ohio

    I kegged Red Irish Ale at 12 psi for a week, yesterday I tried it and it had a soap/cleaner taste to it in the after taste. This is my first keg with this keggerator and I sanitized the lines, tap and keg valve with Star San when I got it. Should I re-sanitize the lines or is the beer just shot? Thanks!
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If you have a spare keg, you might run use that to run some Beer Line Cleaner through your lines. Sanitizer is not a cleanser. It is possible that the soapy flavor is coming from the keg and not the lines, in which case I don't see a solution. That would mean either the keg had soap residue when you added the beer, or the beer developed a soapy off flavor.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Th soapy flavor could also be from the beer. Did you have a lot of trub going from the kettle to the fermenter?
     
  4. MitchyTheKid

    MitchyTheKid Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2013 Ohio

    I don't think so, I thought I was very careful transferring it. Even when I siphoned from my carboy to the keg I thought I was super careful. Let's say I got some in the keg, how can I address the taste? Thanks.
     
  5. MitchyTheKid

    MitchyTheKid Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2013 Ohio

    Pweis909, I just did a hot water rinse serveral times and then a sanitizer. The keggerator didn't come with a manual so I am winging it. I do have a couple of spare kegs to transfer to. Should I just maybe put new lines on. Any recommendations an line cleaners? Thanks!
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If the soapy flavor is from trub (i.e. fatty acids converting to soap), I don't think there's a fix.

    If it's from residual cleaners in your beer line or faucet, you could clean, rinse well, and re-sanitize. I use BLC to clean my lines/faucets. With BLC, you need a way to pump it through the lines and faucet...either from an extra keg (pushed by CO2) or a hand pump device.

    If it's from residual cleaners in your serving keg, I think you are screwed for this batch.
     
  7. MitchyTheKid

    MitchyTheKid Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2013 Ohio

    Thanks Vikeman. I will do some trouble shooting.
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Vikeman's well articulated thoughts vis a vis BLC, soap in the lines, soap in the keg, and soapy flavors derived from trub, are exactly what I was trying to say early this morning before I finished drinking my first cup of coffee.

    In my brewhouse, I never use dishsoap on anything. I use oxyclean during a cleaning phase, followed by at least triple rinsing with hotwater. I don't want to start an argument, but acknowledge that PBW is probably better than oxyclean, but I haven't gone that route yet. However, I have recently started using BLC on my lines because there was a thread a few months back that expressed astonishment at how dirty lines can get. When I tried it, I didn't see crud coming out of my lines, but now that I have the stuff, I'll continue to use it, at least between batches. I do not have a handpump, so I put some in an empty keg and push it through with a little CO2.
     
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