Solution to Latest Corny Keg Problem, Please

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  1. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I swear, nothing about kegging is easy except for maybe (MAYBE!) cleaning up. Effing infuriating.

    When I plug the ball lock into the gas in post, it leaks. Enough air is getting into through the post that I can push sanitizer through my lines, but it is also leaking at the ball lock. If I take the ball lock off, the poppit closes and it retains pressure. It's only leaking when the ball lock is engaged. The ball lock works perfectly fine on the post of other kegs. Solution?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Given your facts, it sounds like you have a mis-shaped gas post (unlikely) or a bad gas post O-Ring. Or (maybe) your quick disconnect is worn just enough that it leaks with this particular post/o-ring.

    Also, are you sure the gas post on this keg is actually a gas post (and not a liquid post)?
     
  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The forum would be shocked if you failed to get it right!

    Somewhere along the way, maybe when I was giving a beat down to the posts to get them off to clean, I must have torn the post o-ring. New one seems to have done the trick.

    EDIT: All this trouble for a drain pour. Airlock dried out and the beer tastes cardboard. Taking a lot of lumps in my return to homebrewing.
     
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  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Sounds like this may be called for:

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  5. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I'm a Cutter man myself...
     
  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    People don't change their O-rings often enough, nor do they use enough keg lube. These are two cheap and easy things that prevent a lot of problems.
     
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  7. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    At less than two cents each, I change my o-rings after every pour. :grinning:
    Actually, I change them every time I clean a keg. Definitely overkill, but, as your experience illustrates, it's better than underkill.
    And, FWIW, once you get past the startup bumps, kegging will be a piece of cake.
     
  8. csoult

    csoult Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    The space shuttle blew up due to bad o-rings.....
     
  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    This is the fourth keg I added to my gear. I've kegged 20 batches in 2.5 years, but I still feel like a rookie. I just have not developed the same comfort level with kegs that I developed with bottles. By the time I bottled 20 batches, I had the process down and really didn't have a problem for the next 80 or so bottled batches.

    There has never been an unsolvable problem, but there have been several problems that I needed help with:
    • breaking down the keg and cleaning it,
    • various leaks, mostly, due to loose connections, broken seals, slightly deformed closures that required extra lube, and broken poppets that were surprisingly difficult to replace.
    • difficulty ordering parts on-line (because I didn't quite know what parts I really needed).

    There problem are some excellent homebrewers' guides to kegging out there that I might benefit from reading. Anyone have suggestions?
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I'll knock on wood then. My kegging is about as low maintenance as I can get it.

    I clean my kegs and all, but only once a year do I care to take them apart, soak the posts and poppits really well, and lube everything up fresh.

    I only take my lines down and flush my lines with cleaner every 90 days with BLC, too. I do happen to take a said kicked keg, fill with hot pbw, and pressurize it, and run it through my lines, let it hold for a bit, and then flush it out well. Then follow with starsan through everything.

    One you find your suspect keg, mark it. I have one that the lid has to go on a certain way or it won't seal well under 11psi.


    I once last year, had an IPA keg kick, and had another IPA to keg. I hosed out the keg, shook it around, cleaned it out. Filled with starsan, shook it, ran it through the tap to clean out the pickup tube, and dumped it. Filled it right back up with the other IPA and kept on rockin. Never had a problem with the beer and essentially just rinsed and sanitized.
     
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  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Have you read this one?
    Bottler's Guide to Kegging
     
  12. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    we are talking about spoiled beer, not the space shuttle.
    let's try to keep to the real tragedy here.



    edit
    too soon?
     
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  13. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I realize this doesn't solve your problem, such as it is, but you seem to be the exception. When I started kegging (batch #1 of 82 - I've never bottled a batch), I fully expected leaks, foam, and the like, and simply assumed it would be a process of getting comfortable with the quirks and learning how to deal with problems as they come up. It turned out to be much less of a headache than I had mentally prepared myself for. Maybe I just got lucky with the kegs I bought?
    Hang in there. It has to get easier.
    Try bending the lid legs down, just a bit, to compress the o-ring a bit more.
     
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  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I have not. I'll check it out. Thanks for the tips and for deciphering my poorly edited text.
     
  15. WeaponTheyFear

    WeaponTheyFear Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Connecticut

    This basically what I do. Any possible leaks are discovered either when dispensing star scan through the lines or after hooking up the gas to the keg. To me, kegging is a very easy process the only problem I ever have it forgetting to flush the keg with co2.
     
  16. WeaponTheyFear

    WeaponTheyFear Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Connecticut

    This basically what I do. Any possible leaks are discovered either when dispensing star scan through the lines or after hooking up the gas to the keg. To me, kegging is a very easy process the only problem I ever have it forgetting to flush the keg with co2.
     
  17. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    I feel ya man, Ive had a few things like what you've described. I would just keep reading and posting on here for tips to the annoyances you have. My first keg of beer was foamy the whole time and it took a good bit of research to figure out but I finally discovered that the orings for pin lock kegs are different from ball lock and I used a ball lock kit to replace the post orings.
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Peter,

    I am sorry to hear about your kegging woes.

    Thank you for posting though since it illustrates that not every homebrewers’ experiences are the same. Some folks will post that switching to kegging is the best thing ever and then you post about your experiences.

    Everybody’s brewery is different.

    I hope that you can resolve the issues that you are experiencing.

    Cheers!

    Jack
     
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