Something wrong with Furious Cans?

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  1. Seamus_McGuire

    Seamus_McGuire Devotee (353) Aug 11, 2014 Minnesota

    Hey...

    Anyone else get a bad can of Surly Furious? I'm at a bar and a friend ordered a Furious. It was really bad so he asked for another. It was equally bad and the bartender agreed. We opened a third can, all dated 1/28/15 and it too was awful so they pulled everything with that date code.
     
    #1 Seamus_McGuire, Feb 7, 2015
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  2. mingo

    mingo Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2013 Arizona

    #2 mingo, Feb 7, 2015
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  3. Chumley22

    Chumley22 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2013 Minnesota

    Really? I sure as hell hope not. Isn't this beer a little young to show signs of infection?
     
    #3 Chumley22, Feb 7, 2015
  4. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Bad or infected? Flat? Off-tastes? Diacetyl? What are you saying exactly?

    If you're going to start a thread like this you ought to be a lot more specific than "bad".
     
    #4 maximum12, Feb 7, 2015
  5. Seamus_McGuire

    Seamus_McGuire Devotee (353) Aug 11, 2014 Minnesota

    What do you want? I'm not a certified Beer a Judge. What do you want me to say? Undrinkable? It was certainly sour and a little flat. I don't drink Furious very often, though ao like the beer,. The friend who drinks Furious most of the time states that "it wasn't' malty and the hop taste was wrong." Hardly a detailed analysis from an expert beer taster, but that's the best we can do.
     
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  6. morimech

    morimech Grand Pooh-Bah (3,803) Nov 6, 2006 Minnesota
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    Hardly "infected" by that description.
     
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  7. Seamus_McGuire

    Seamus_McGuire Devotee (353) Aug 11, 2014 Minnesota

    You're right. Infected is probably incorrect. I shouldn't have used that term. Regardless, limited evidence suggests something wrong with the the Furious canned on that date. My original question stands. Has anyone else recently come across a can of Furious that was off? If so, was the can dated 1/28/15?
     
    #7 Seamus_McGuire, Feb 7, 2015
  8. Ish1

    Ish1 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 Minnesota

    I think people are just trying to understand if this is the same issue as we are having with Abrasive.
    @SurlyMan
     
    #8 Ish1, Feb 7, 2015
  9. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Everything is infected these days
     
    #9 evilcatfish, Feb 7, 2015
  10. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Infectious sounds like a natural name variation of Furious. Y'know, 'cuz the enthusiasm for Surly's beer is infectious. :grinning:
     
    #10 Chaz, Feb 7, 2015
  11. mothman

    mothman Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,016) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    I sure hope Sporty's wasn't serving up bad furious!

    To actually contribute, however, I did have a can of 1/21 furious yesterday and that batch was tasty!
     
    #11 mothman, Feb 7, 2015
  12. Seamus_McGuire

    Seamus_McGuire Devotee (353) Aug 11, 2014 Minnesota

    And there were cans of furious at Sporty's from an earlier date that were fine. Just the 1/28/15 ones were skunky.
     
    #12 Seamus_McGuire, Feb 7, 2015
  13. accordselux

    accordselux Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2007 Minnesota

    My Eight WAS. I know infected.
     
    #13 accordselux, Feb 7, 2015
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  14. tgates

    tgates Pundit (970) Aug 3, 2014 Minnesota
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    Wait this actually happened at Sporty's? Oh man. Here we go...
     
    #14 tgates, Feb 7, 2015
  15. opwog

    opwog Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2008 Minnesota

    SM stated: "It was certainly sour and a little flat." Admittedly, infections can frequently lead to over carbonation, but it also can lead to undercarbonation, as well. The 2009 Abyss is a prime example of this. But the unintentional sour or tart flavors are almost always from infection.

    Also, I never heard anybody else complain about infected Bender, but there was definitely an infected keg at Hopkins Tavern/Pub 819 just before the new opening. It had some serious tart cherry going on. I mentioned it to the two bartenders, but they both looked at me like they had no idea what I was talking about. I googled and searched threads here to see if anybody else had been reporting it in other kegs, but didn't see any other mention of it. This was late November/early December.
     
    #15 opwog, Feb 7, 2015
  16. ZAP

    ZAP Grand Pooh-Bah (4,048) Dec 1, 2001 Minnesota
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    Are we sure these aren't just brett sour versions :slight_smile:

    If labeled that way they could charge at least a couple extra bucks per six pack..
     
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  17. Junkfish

    Junkfish Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2012 Minnesota

    I would think an in house quality assurance department would catch this? I work for a major food packaging company and this sort of thing is tested hourly. Tsk tsk
     
    #17 Junkfish, Feb 8, 2015
  18. vs283204

    vs283204 Initiate (0) May 24, 2008 Michigan

    How? Please explain, I've never heard of such a problem. It would seem to defy Henry's law.
     
    #18 vs283204, Feb 8, 2015
  19. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Don't know how it could do that for a force carbonated beer. But I've seen infections where the infection caused the yeast to go dormant and just not make as much carbonation. That only applies to bottle conditioning though.
     
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  20. opwog

    opwog Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2008 Minnesota

    Not sure why you parsed out the answer to your own question from my original quote: "The 2009 Abyss is a prime example of this."
     
    #20 opwog, Feb 8, 2015
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