Sour beer fermentation issues

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  1. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Hi guys, I need some advice regarding lambic beer fermentation. I have brewed on 08/18 5 gals of a straight lambic beer using my captured yeast . I know primary fermentation(the bulk) have been already done by sacc, the point is I can not hold fermentation lower than 76 F (it´s getting warm in South America)so I am afraid of sacc autolisys. Should I rack this beer to a secondary and put it in the fridge where I have my yeast packs and hops( 44 F) ? . It´s been 3 days this beer is fermenting at this temperature. Help
     
  2. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Lambics remain in primary for the bulk of secondary fermentation and brettanomyces uses autolysed sacc for nutrition.
     
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  3. GeoSteve

    GeoSteve Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2014 Maryland

    If your choice is 76F or 44F I'd keep it at 76. It's probably a little higher than you want it to be ideally, but as long as your wild culture doesn't contain any acetobacter you'll probably be ok. Fermentation will be painfully slow at 44F.
     
  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I'm betting Cantillion spends some time at 76F.
     
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  5. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I think there is not acetobacter but I am not sure about that.Could it be a bad idea to let it sit at 44 F during summer time and when temperature drops to 60ish in the end of fall take it out of fridge to let it sit at room temp again?
     
  6. GeoSteve

    GeoSteve Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2014 Maryland

    If you're worried about it, keeping it at 44 won't hurt it in any substantial way, you just won't get much fermentation during that time. The yeast and bacteria can live at those conditions, they just won't be as active. Many pro brewers prefer to keep their sours at in the 60s or high 50s, but the 70s won't result in a bad beer, all other things being equal. In general, the higher the temp, the faster the yeast and bacteria will work. But if you have a tightly sealed fermentor, I wouldn't hesitate to keep it at 76. I've got aging sours that that saw those temperatures this past summer and they seem to be progressing nicely.
     
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  7. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    My concern is that I will not be able to control fermentation temp on february (vacations), I am afraid it could be raising up to 90 F.
     
  8. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Should I use a solid rubber bung to seal this better bottle fermentor while sitting in the fridge?
     
  9. GeoSteve

    GeoSteve Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2014 Maryland

    90F is rather high. I would cool it down during those periods. No need for a solid stopper, airlock is fine, just equilibrate the pressure as you cool it down to avoid liquid being sucked in though the airlock.
     
  10. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    how do I do that?
     
  11. GeoSteve

    GeoSteve Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2014 Maryland

    Just pop the airlock off and put it back on.
     
  12. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    thank you Sir, you are very kind
     
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