Sour dregs question

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  1. saatana

    saatana Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 North Carolina

    I got some dregs from a few sours this weekend and want to use them in some homebrews. I don't have any beers going right now that I want to use them in, but I was wondering if I should go ahead and make starters now (to check the viability of the dregs) or if I should wait until I have a brew planned to make the starter? If I make the starter now how long can I store it before using it?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    How are you storing the dregs from the weekend if they are not in a starter?
     
  3. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    Start feeding now. There's no reason why you can't just keep giving the bugs sugar every week or so.
     
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  4. saatana

    saatana Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 North Carolina

    Right now I am just storing the dregs in sanitized jars/tubes.
     
  5. saatana

    saatana Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 North Carolina

    I'm assuming that providing sugar every week or so would help prevent autolysis?
     
  6. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
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    "Helps" in that you'll have healthy, active bugs to consume the results but not prevent, afaik.
     
  7. saatana

    saatana Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 North Carolina

    Is it necessary to use a stir plate or can I just add starter wort to the jars?
     
  8. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Yes and no. For any yeast its good, but oxygen can be poisonous for some bacteria.
     
  9. FenderOffset238

    FenderOffset238 Zealot (627) May 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    How long does it take yeast/bacteria to start to die off? I've hear people letting beer sit in primary for a month or so without much problem. Does this hold the same for starters?
     
  10. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    You won't know until you know. If I were you, I'd build it up to 1/2 size of a pitchable quantity and then after activity dies down, pour in (under sterile technique) some carbonated water & shake a little and degas to purge any residual O2. Then seal airtight and refrigerate until you're ready to use. I wouldn't wait longer than 1-2 months before using, and prior to use, build up the culture again to a healthy pitch rate.
     
  11. jmarsh123

    jmarsh123 Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2010 Indiana
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    I've harvested yeast cakes from previous lambic batches with success. I usually just keep some old White Labs tubes around for this purpose and store them in the fridge as I would for normal yeast. No idea how long they would last, but I've gone up to 3 months of storage with no ill effects.
     
  12. saatana

    saatana Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 North Carolina

    Is there any benefit in adding some Wyeast Nutrient to the starters? Will the nutrient be beneficial only to any yeast or will it be beneficial to the bacteria as well?
     
    #12 saatana, May 4, 2015
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