Sour-Mash IPA?

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  1. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Anyone tried one? I might try it out next week. I was thinking palisade would be a good hop in a sour mash hoppy beer.
     
  2. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I was gonna suggest Saaz, Hallertau, Hersbrucker, Tetttnang or Styrian Goldings mix & some honey malt for sweetness. You thinking a German ale yeast?
     
  3. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    I was thinking Wyeast 1010 which is similar, but fruitier than their Kolsch yeast.
     
  4. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Sour + Bitter = Gross
     
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  5. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Would work as an aromatic pale ale I think: fragrant noble hop aroma, floral, mild spice and tart, on the palate cracker like malt with slight sweetness, crisp tartness, mild bitterness, floral hops. IMO, I wouldn't go above 5.5% and would bitter at 0.75 BU:GU. I wouldn't go really sour either, this concept would work well with a balanced approach.
     
  6. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Magic Hat tried this, IMO, it did not turn out well. Lawsons Brettzilla DIPA is great but not exactly what you are contemplating.
     
  7. Macky20

    Macky20 Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2009 North Carolina

    Wicked Weed's "Amorous" is a sour IPA and is phenomenal.... I would love to brew something like it, but I'm not confident brewing a sour yet.
     
  8. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    I'd suggest keeping your IBUs low. A bit of acidity and accentuate bitterness, but too much will likely clash. You could try dosing a regular IPA with lactic acid to get an impression of how much is right.

    My preference is for dry hopping well-aged sour, great combo of fresh hop aromatics with the developed acid/ester profile of the base beer.
     
  9. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Pundit (993) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    A local brewery, Night Shift, had a Berliner/IPA blend (SoJo) at this year's EBF. It was delicious , one of the best of the day. Keep to late addition, citrusy hops, and I think you'll have a winner. Might be doing something similar in the coming months.
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Is there more to learn about sours and hopping in an upcoming book?
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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  12. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Yep, I've got sections of hopping sour beers, and 100% Brett IPAs. Hard copies are just two weeks out (they'll be at NHC).
     
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  13. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    This of course begs the question - if you add a metric butt ton of dry hops to a beer with zero IBUs, is it still an IPA?

    There's a high probability this question should be ignored.
     
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  14. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    I don't think a beer like that could simply be called an IPA, but any beer with an appreciable level of sourness isn’t an IPA anyway. Bitterness from isomerized alpha acids is part of the flavor profile of the generic IPA style. Could a low bitterness “sour IPA” have the same legitimacy as white IPA, 100% Brett IPA, black IPA, session IPA etc.? I don’t see why not.
     
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