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Sour Saisons

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Zach136, Jan 2, 2013.

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  1. luwak

    luwak Aspirant (269) Mar 2, 2010 Arizona
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  2. BedetheVenerable

    BedetheVenerable Meyvn (1,023) Sep 5, 2008 Missouri

    Jolly Pumpkin IO Saison is phenomenal; get a bottle if at all possible.
  3. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    Interlude is an incredibly unique and delicious beer; there's really nothing I've had that compares to it. I just had some on-tap recently, and I was struck by the vinous notes and oak character. I wouldn't call it a Saison, and I wouldn't call it a Sour. It's just Interlude.

    As for Sour saisons, I really don't know what you're looking for. Everyone's palate is different, and those who find Rodenbach Grand Cru intensely sour would be shocked at the level of sourness in a Cantillon Kriek. What exactly are you looking for? A saison fermented with wild yeast? Or just something really Bretty?

    It's unfortunate but beautiful: there's only one Interlude.
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  4. Zach136

    Zach136 Meyvn (1,453) Jun 17, 2012 Georgia

    In that case I better get back to the bar and drink more!
  5. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    It varies year to year, but there's a fantastic wine character that comes through in the beer due to the Merlot and Sirah barrel aging. There aren't a lot of breweries using wine barrels, and I think that's what makes Interlude unique, along with the brilliant yeast character and tartness. Cheers.
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  6. chocosushi

    chocosushi Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 Oklahoma

    Not a Saison but, this:
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  7. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    Is every beer this guy makes "with Brett"?
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  8. chocosushi

    chocosushi Initiate (0) May 1, 2011 Oklahoma

    As of yet, yes. All are Brett'd & aged in wine barrels (usually Chard.)
  9. kell50

    kell50 Meyvn (1,054) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina

    I know it has been already mentioned, but Allagash Interlude is pretty fantastic! And living in North Carolina, Catawba Brewing (in Morganton, NC) is making some outstanding sours.
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  10. JohnB87

    JohnB87 Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2011 Michigan

    If you look at Quality/Price ratio, it is pretty hard to beat Sofie.
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  11. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poo-Bah (12,188) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Infected Guava Grove.
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  12. SubpoenaDeuces

    SubpoenaDeuces Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2011 California

    I have been meaning to try this new style, this thread has inspired me, tomorrow I will go out and try HANNEPIN (sp?) I think I saw it on a shelf at Binnys.
  13. brkstoutfiend

    brkstoutfiend Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 Michigan

    Just had Crooked Stave's Saison the other day and it had a fantastic rustic character with a little tartness on the back end. An absolutely beautiful beer.
  14. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    I missed the Blackberry Saison. Catawba is going to blow up when they get the barrel program moved to Asheville and the tap room open. If they start bottling, they're going to put NC on the sour map.
  15. lpotter

    lpotter Devotee (442) Dec 13, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Don't give up if you don't like Hennepin. I hate it, but saisons in general are delicious.
  16. thecheapies

    thecheapies Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2009 Pennsylvania

    +1 to Logsdon Seizoen Bretta, if you can find one. So good. I wish I'd had more than one bottle. I'd also love to try Peche 'n Brett.
  17. FEUO

    FEUO Disciple (327) Jul 24, 2012 Ontario (Canada)

    Jolly Pumpkin sours everything to my knowledge.
    So their farmhouse lineup: Bam Biere, Bam Noire, and E.S. Bam (my fav) all qualify. No?
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  18. Andygirl

    Andygirl Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2013 Michigan

    I like Brewery Vivant Zaison Imperial Saison. It's sweet and tart, reminds me of good hard cider. I don't tend to like saisons, so it could be total crap to people who do.​
  19. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    Noble Rot was a pretty rad beer, and it's classified as a Saison. Has some grapes and funk in there, along with a lovely acidity, borderline sour. Cheers
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  20. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Disciple (300) Mar 12, 2012 Texas
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    Check out Prairie Ales.
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  21. VladTepes

    VladTepes Initiate (156) Oct 18, 2012 Finland

    Same. Actually I didn't find any brett. Still tasty and quite spicy saison.
  22. theconductor

    theconductor Aspirant (212) Nov 4, 2008 California

    I was going to suggest Prairie Somewhere. All of the Prairie beers that I've tried so far have been great!
  23. OldBluesNewBrews

    OldBluesNewBrews Initiate (0) Oct 25, 2012 New Jersey
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    This 'Brett' fellow must be a terribly busy guy. He seems to be involved in a lot of brewing.

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  24. Giantspace

    Giantspace Defender (632) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Love buzz has a light tart to it. Very good beer but not sour. Some might call it sour but I think its the orange peels and wine barrel.

  25. Pnell316

    Pnell316 Initiate (164) Aug 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    You should try the new one Tralfmadorian, one of their best Belgians yet, excluding bottled stuff that's just tits.
  26. ao125

    ao125 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Virginia

    All I know is that I'd like an IV of Sour in the Rye put into my arm.
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  27. bahnfire

    bahnfire Aspirant (265) Jan 17, 2011 Vermont
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    Grassroots Covivial Suarez is one worth seeking out. I think it is on par with Arthur and Anna.
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  28. afrokaze

    afrokaze Zealot (580) Jun 12, 2009 Arizona
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    A local brewery (Sante Adairius) has made a few that have been phenomenal, and they've only been open for 9 months - West Ashley, Love's Armor and Saison Bernice have all been amazing. Inspired me to make my own super funk/sour yeast blend cultivated from walez to make a sour version of my homebrew saison, can't wait to try it!
  29. BleepBloopBlap

    BleepBloopBlap Initiate (59) Aug 19, 2011 Massachusetts

    Fantome Saison (just the "regular" one)
  30. afrokaze

    afrokaze Zealot (580) Jun 12, 2009 Arizona
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    Really liked the Suarez but I'd put it just a step below Anna, not that they're really all that similar except for their named style. Anna was almost perfect for a more traditional saison, while Suarez had some darker malts and hibiscus, which always seems to mesh well with the style.
  31. Cvescalante

    Cvescalante Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2012 Texas
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    Jester King Das Uberkind for sure.. Many people like Wunderkind as well
  32. 1up

    1up Disciple (361) Mar 5, 2013 District of Columbia

    The most recent batch wasn't funky. Also HF Flora in addition to the previously mentioned HF Saisons. Seems like all of theirs are tart.
  33. denver10

    denver10 Poo-Bah (2,192) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico


    Crooked Stave's Saison Vieille....original batch.
  34. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Meyvn (1,469) Aug 29, 2012 Michigan
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    Love Buzz is an interesting case, and to me, embodies the difficulty of defining "sour" within a style that isn't full-on sour.

    My friends, some of whom are no fans of sour beers, all like Love Buzz and thought it was pretty sour. I, being someone who really enjoys sours and gueuze, thought it had some tartness, a hint of sour, but wouldn't really classify it as a "sour" saison.

    Saisons already tow that line between "sour" and just "funky", so it makes the perception of a "sour" saison hard to define and entirely dependent upon personal taste and palette. At least, that's my two cents.

    PS - I was blown away by Love Buzz and really hope that Anchorage decides to do another run or fifty. I really really REALLY want another bottle, but seem to have exhausted all my usual channels. I'm honestly lucky that I got the one bottle I did try.
  35. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (724) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    misconception: brettanomyces makes beer sour

    correct answer: pediococcus and lactobacillus makes beer sour.

    Also, a sour saison would technically just be a Wild Ale, right?
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  36. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (724) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    That is what I alwasy thought.

    Man this guy must be some celebrity brewer.
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  37. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Meyvn (1,469) Aug 29, 2012 Michigan
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    I'm glad someone else said this. I've always thought people confuse the general funkiness that can accompany brett beers with "sour", but I'm not quite knowledgeable enough to say something.
  38. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (724) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    Lactobacillus released lactic acid when it eats simple sugars which makes the beer tart. I'm also pretty sure that acid is causing the head to reduce quickly, making it champagne like in body.
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  39. GeoffreyM

    GeoffreyM Devotee (475) Feb 23, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I did have it. I must agree, it was amazing. I wish I could try some of the bottled stuff. Never made it to any of the releases.
  40. Greenplastic615

    Greenplastic615 Devotee (411) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Crooked Stave Surette Riserva in Wine Barrels. Easily the best example of this style I've ever had.
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