Sours - where do I start?

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  1. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Now this is very cool! Thanks to all the folks who jumped in and provided excellent insight! Now I guess I just have to prepare the wallet!
     
  2. alex_hart

    alex_hart Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2013 Oklahoma

    Ya there have been a ton of different offerings popping up around here recently!
     
  3. macher0

    macher0 Savant (1,162) Dec 24, 2012 Kentucky
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    Jolly Pumpkin La Roja > Lips of Faith: La Folie > Jolly Pumpkin La Roja.

    E: Boon Kriek Mariage Parfait
     
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  4. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    You don't need to work up to a Gueuze. Get a reality check.

    Some BAs have a real distorted view of their place on this Earth.

    What is happening to beer that people think you need a pedigree to imbibe in a style??

    Meh!!!!
     
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  5. BigJim5021

    BigJim5021 Savant (1,227) Sep 2, 2007 Indiana

    No one is saying you need a pedigree, just that Cuvée Rene is more intensely sour than something like Duchesse, Goudenband or Monk's Cafe. I hated Cuvée Rene when I tried it and it was my first attempt at a sour. I haven't retried it, but I've liked all the Flemish sours I've tried. Now I plan on retrying Rene since I've not had a gueze since that one.

    It would be like someone asking what IPAs to try to ease them into the style and everyone jumping in and telling them to try Ruination and Palate Wrecker.
     
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  6. Grabbin2nd

    Grabbin2nd Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2005 California

    trinity old growth. dive right in.:grimacing:
     
  7. MattSweatshirt

    MattSweatshirt Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2011 Texas

    Cantillon Loerik
    Rodenbach Alexander
    Drie Fonteinen J&J Blauw
     
  8. GFG

    GFG Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2012 North Dakota

    Jolly Pumpkin
     
  9. PieOhMy

    PieOhMy Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2013 Minnesota

    All of this. If you want to break into the style you can't go wrong with these.
     
  10. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Jump straight in. Consecration.
     
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  11. ForbesyTVB

    ForbesyTVB Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2013 New York

    I recently had the Monk's and I thought it was great! A great beginner for sour ales
     
  12. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    If you can eat a sour patch kid or a jolly rancher, then you can drink a very sour beer. This isn't like a wheat beer fan looking to get into hoppy beers. Don't be afraid to make a Cascade or a Bruery sour your first.

    Most of the so called starter sours mentioned ITT are tasty beers. I've tried a lot of different sours and I can't think of too many that were difficult to drink or just plain nasty. I've enjoyed the $10 per 750ml sours. I've enjoyed the $20+ per 750ml sours. Truth be told, the $20+ sours are generally more complex and enjoyable for me.

    Cuvee Rene is the only one I don't really agree with as a starter sour. It has a massive Brett L. barnyard note and is super dry and tart in an acrid sort of way. I buy it to mix with other beers when I want to add some barnyard and some tartness. I found it to be challenging to drink and it was probably the 20th sour I tried.
     
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  13. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    The Monks I tried was a vinegar bomb. It must have been a couple years old when I bought it. I liked it with the big vinegar note, but a lot of people seem to think vinegar is an unattractive flaw.
     
  14. BigJim5021

    BigJim5021 Savant (1,227) Sep 2, 2007 Indiana

    See, I didn't find Oude Tart to be any more complex than the Duchesse. Just a little more sour.
     
  15. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Looks like someone needs to get laid!
     
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  16. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Savant (1,015) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

    Best place to start is with a second job. You'll need it if you take a liking to them. :wink:
     
  17. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    Not everyone has the same taste. There is no universal right or wrong.

    Oude Tart had some nice malty notes for me, possibly from Belgian Caraveinne malt and a funky pineapple note that reminded me of Brett C in addition to the Roeselare yeast they likely used. I could be wrong about all of that, but that's how I remember it. It also had a nice barrel character that isn't present in many Belgian sours.

    Duchesse would probably be my least favorite of all the sour beers I've tried and don't really have anything good to say about it. It was back sweetened and slightly vinegary. I like dry sours. I intend to drink it again someday to see if I was mistaken, but I recall being very unimpressed.

    If you like Duchesse, I urge you to drop $20 on Rodenbach Vintage. Try them back to back. There is a big difference.
     
  18. Can_if_you_can

    Can_if_you_can Pooh-Bah (1,571) Mar 15, 2012 Minnesota
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    i'd say definatly Duchese Du Bourgogne as well as Brouwerij Van Steenberge's Monk's Cafe flemish sour ale and the best last BROUWERIJ BAVIK "PETRUS AGED PALE"!!! SOOOOOO GOOD!
     
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  19. BigJim5021

    BigJim5021 Savant (1,227) Sep 2, 2007 Indiana

    Yes. We sure do. Which is why I didn't say "YOU'RE WRONG" anywhere in my post. My statement had more to do with the fact that I don't feel that people need to spend an arm and a leg to get good sours. Petrus and the two Liefman's sours are much cheaper than most American made sours and generally just as good to me.

    And I would love to try Rodenbach ANYTHING, but it's not available in Southern IN.
     
  20. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    I like Petrus Pale and Liefman's Goudeband. :slight_smile:
     
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