Spare Ingredients - help us build a beer!

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Hop-Droppen-Roll, Apr 27, 2017.

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  1. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I'll check out your source. Midwest is (somewhat) local to me and I've been ordering from them since before they sold out, so it's what I'm accustomed to (I also work at a non-exclusive distributor and our largest contract happens to be with AB so I'm already out of the staying-away-from-ABI game).
     
  2. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    difference between Breiss and Dingemans? I had assumed they were brands but they are both from Malliard Malts... Dingemans is considerably more expensive (relatively)

    Also, @crcostel - looks like the caravienne at ritebrew has a much lower Lovibond number... that seems odd
     
  3. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Maillard Malts is a store brand of Midwest/Northern Brewer. They are repackaged from other brands. Breiss and Dingemans are different companies.

    I think the Ritebrew Caravienne is also 20L and its just a typo.
     
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  4. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Any preference as far as breiss vs dingemans?
     
  5. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Final question as I am gearing up to get everything I need ordered.

    What if I steep the whole pound of caravienne? Would that ruin the beer? I could save half for another batch of the same beer, but it might be easier for me to just dump it all in the steeping bag :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  6. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Like I said earlier, yes, I think even half a pound is too much. Some others here might prefer it with even more than a pound. This is really a personal preference question. Just do what feels right and adjust up or down next time if you feel like it.
     
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  7. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I guess when I get the stuff in hand I'll gauge it to what I've used before - whatever came in the kit - I guess I assumed it would be the same amount (maybe it usually comes in half-pounds when you buy a kit)

    edit: I'll check some kit ingredient lists
     
  8. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeah I see for example the furious clone kit comes with only a quarter pound of crystal 50-60L... but I'm not sure how that differs from caravienne 20L, but I don't want to overpower it... I'm brewing a furious kit this weekend so I'll be getting back into the groove of this after a long break. Should help me get a feel for it.
     
  9. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I would go Dingemans myself, but I usually pick European specialty grains over North American.
     
  10. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I just bottled my beer with Liberty Bell and the diacetyl was definitely there. I left it in primary for two weeks. Pretty disappointed, as this is the first real fermentation flaw I've had since I started watching my temps.

    How long did it take to clean up after itself for you? Did it clean up in the primary, secondary, bottle, or keg?
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I left it in primary at highish temps and it cleaned up in about 2 more weeks. Adding some active yeast will help, if that doesn't take care of it. Avoid pulling it off the yeast, as some of them are active and helping.
     
  12. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Oops. I bottled it already. I didn't notice the diacetyl until I added the priming sugar and had the beer in the bottling bucket. :flushed:

    Hopefully the fermentation in the bottle helps clear it up a little bit. Wish I had seen your post a few weeks ago so I wouldn't have used that yeast. Never again. At least I only committed half a batch to M36. :angry:
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I didn't read carefully. Since it is already off the yeast and there really isn't an opportunity to add more, yes, hopefully the yeast that are busy carbonating the bottles will clean up the diacetyl. I think the chances are pretty good. I never had diacetyl issues until I started kegging. This may be one advantage of bottling over kegging. If the first bottles you taste have diacetyl, warm up the remaining bottles to 70F or so and wait a few weeks, sampling a bottle every so often to evaluate.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Reading "How to Brew" would give you some contextual background against which to ask yourself some (but not all) of the questions you're asking the forum. For the rest, it would give you a better foundation upon which to understand the answers.
     
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  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You can Mash Vienna, therefore you can Minimash Vienna. The only difference is the size of the mash. Vienna has the enzymes to convert its own starches to sugars/dextrins, so you don't necessarily need another base malt to mash/minimash along with it.

    But Vienna shouldn't be simply "steeped" unless the steeping conditions also happen to be mash conditions.
     
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  16. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Very good point.
     
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