Spaten Production / Availability Problems?

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  1. bonsainut

    bonsainut Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 North Carolina

    Seems like every year or so I start another thread about Spaten product availability issues in Southern California. Does Straub care?

    Total Wine has been out of stock of Spaten Oktoberfest for over a month. Special orders aren't even getting filled. Bevmo is out of stock in both LA and Orange counties. Closest product availability is down in San Diego.

    Anyone know anything about Spaten once AGAIN having shipping problems?
     
  2. ypsifly

    ypsifly Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2004 Michigan

    No problems in the Detroit area. One brief interruption of a couple weeks last year but nothing major. Local distributor issue?
     
  3. bonsainut

    bonsainut Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 North Carolina

    I dropped an email to the local distributor (Straub) and haven't heard anything back. My local Total Wine is a little miffed because they have now had open holes on the shelf for more than a month, and they don't like when they order 7 cases for their weekly order and none show up on the truck.
     
  4. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Nothing here for years. Luckily I can get plenty of local peanut butter and jelly brown ale though.
     
  5. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    One local wholesaler doesn't want beer gathering dust in the warehouse. That means the lower sales volume beers are not purchased until he can buy another shipment when he is certain the lot will sell. Don't know if that's what you're up against. Around here the German beers move slowlllyyyy.
     
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  6. BeerPugz

    BeerPugz Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2016 Wisconsin

    What @KansasBeerLover said. I noticed a huge decrease in sales with the German beers over the last decade in my area and it really only picks up during Octoberfest. Bitburger moves though :slight_smile:
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, as others have posted German beers in my area simply do not move well. I periodically check them out and invariably they are old.

    I have also noticed that the selection (number of brands) has decreased significantly in the past decade. It would seem that beer consumers would prefer to drink fresh German style beers brewed by US craft breweries instead? That is what I end of doing, buying beers from Stoudts, Victory, Sly Fox,...

    Cheers!
     
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  8. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not sure where @BeerPugz is in Wisconsin, but I see a lot of German imports around Southeastern Wisconsin -- specifically Kenosha. And the Spaten always seems to be available.

    To that, I had seen a downturn in Spaten in Northeastern Illinois, but in the past year it seems to be making a comeback.
     
  9. BeerPugz

    BeerPugz Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2016 Wisconsin

    Central Wisconsin. I didn't say they were not available. The sales volume has decreased drastically over the last decade. Have German pils and hefe sitting on shelves with 2 months before expiration -- that's not fresh. And, as @JackHorzempa stated, the selection has decreased.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That pretty much 'sums up' my experience here in Southeastern PA. I assume that most German breweries use a 12 month best by date and while technically these beers are still 'in code' in my opinion a 12 month best by timeframe is BS.

    One of my favorite German beers is Jever and they use a 15 month best by timeframe!:grimacing:

    Fortunately Jever has started listed two dates on their bottles:
    • Bottle on date
    • Best by date
    Unfortunately I very rarely see Jever on my retailers' shelves that is less than 6 months old.:slight_frown:

    Cheers!
     
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  11. mmmbirra

    mmmbirra Pundit (877) Apr 19, 2009 Italy

    I do my part by picking up a case of 0,5 liter cans every month or so. Here's to Spaten availability not becoming a problem in the Po Valley!
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    That's definitely a problem all over. Getting used to dating codes is helping me out... at least helping me to avoid the old stuff.

    @bonsainut Just saw Spaten Premium in Illinois that was bottled in January -- not too bad, all things considered.
    Well, I've been rather surprised by a few spots in K-town that seem to have a decent variety of both German and UK beers -- maybe not exactly like I used to see in Illinois back in the 70s and 80s, but definitely worth my border run once in a while.
     
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  13. bonsainut

    bonsainut Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 North Carolina

    We have the Spaten Premium and Optimator here. Even during the peak Oktoberfest season they still occupy slots in the "high volume" beer section of the store where they carry the 12-packs.

    At least this year in September they had a gigantic pallet-sized display of the Spaten Oktoberfest in the store and cases were moving.

    It is my personal opinion that they bring in one huge order every several months and run it down... and then order another container. They need to work on their timing because nothing is worse for a beer store than to have huge holes on their shelves... for a month. They put up little tags that say "this product temporarily out of stock see store employee" but it still looks ridiculous, I assume someone in the supply chain is paying Total Wine for that space - so they are paying to stock air.

    During Oktoberfest the Spaten they had was 3 months old.

    Well I have four cases on order so we'll see how long it takes Straub to get inventory back-filled.

    I think stocking German Pils is a hard sell because they are competing directly against some of the US most iconic (and largest volume) mass market brands - Bud, Coors, PBR, etc.

    I'm surprised about the wheat beers. Paulaner Weizen is probably the most popular wheat beer in this market - it is even carried by many brew restaurants.
     
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  14. RutgersBeerGuy

    RutgersBeerGuy Savant (1,059) Jan 16, 2007 New Jersey

    This is the boat I find myself in, as well. All things being equal, I think Weihenstephaner Original is better than Sly Fox Helles. But I think 2-week old Sly Fox Helles is better than 6-month+ old Weihenstephaner Original. When I see fresh-ish Germans, I buy them. Otherwise, Victory, Stoudts, Sly Fox, Tröegs, etc do fine work.
     
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