Special Nugget Nectar Batch?

Discussion in 'New England' started by beast464, Sep 1, 2012.

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  1. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    I would be more pissed about the fact that you probably had to buy a case to get a good per bottle price. But I digress...Troeg's is considered by many, including me*, to be PA's best brewery. I wouldn't give up on them just yet. As someone mentioned, if you wrote off every brewery for making a beer you didn't like, there would be nothing left to drink.

    *Tired Hands is probably a popular choice right now, but they're a small brewpub that's been open for three months and are soon to release their first bottled beer. Give them time.

    P.S. I have an idea! TH buys the old General Lafayette and turns it into their production facility. You're welcome.
     
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  2. beerturtle

    beerturtle Devotee (353) Dec 24, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Sounds good to me!
     
  3. starrdogg

    starrdogg Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2010 District of Columbia

    This year's Nugget Nectar in bottles was rather unimpressive, but I had some on tap and it was damn good. Both were fresh, so I'm not sure what the problem was there exactly.
     
  4. ao125

    ao125 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Virginia

    Probably a lot like cat pee.
     
  5. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Both bottle and tap were bad experiences for me. Must be some batch variation.
     
  6. SPG8

    SPG8 Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I'm having one right now. Was sitting in the fridge (by neglect not design). Whoever mainatains these DIPAs are good after sitting (I recognize the gravity of weighing in on this) is off the mark. This beer is now totally one sided, there's no redeeming aspect.

    This might be my favorite beer (for a variety of reasons), but a NN in September? Probabaly wouldn't give a dollar for it at a yard sale.
     
  7. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Agreed. My understanding is that September is traditionally a pretty slow time of the year for most beer bars, and I guess Lure's figures having a keg of NN is a good way to bolster lagging sales. I doubt it will make the folks at Troegs all that happy to hear they're doing this (assuming they know), and I certainly have no plans to head over there for the event, but I assume the folks at Lure's don't care a whole lot about that.
     
  8. beast464

    beast464 Pundit (884) Apr 6, 2008 Maryland
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    This disappoints me. Being in the Annapolis area I used to go to Lures regularly but I find myself at Punks more often now.
     
  9. shadowane

    shadowane Zealot (631) Sep 7, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I agree about Perpetual, but isn't Nugget Nectar just a hoppy Amber Ale? So, not an IPA at all?
     
  10. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    whatever it actually is, it's closer to an IPA than anything else it might be. i would never describe the beer to anyone that hasn't had it as a 'hoppy amber'... was what i was trying to say.
     
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  11. shadowane

    shadowane Zealot (631) Sep 7, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I'm probably dragging us into a no-win style argument, but Amber is a real style. Nugget Nectar is an amber base that is very hoppy. It's not an IPA and I wouldn't describe it as such. It's maltier, fruiter, and has a breadiness about it that IPAs don't have. I guess it could be semantics but you can say that about a lot of styles. As I said, though, I totally agree about Perpetual just being an IPA and them pretending it isn't as a nice joke. I just disagree about Nugget Nectar.
     
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  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I don't mean to jump in between you guys, and this isn't meant to take sides in the discussion...

    Troegs calls NN an imperial amber, a style I confess I had never heard of prior to NN. Regardless, I'll happily go with whatever Troegs wants to call the beer, and if they want to describe NN as a hoppy amber, that's fine by me. On the other hand, if someone who has never had the beer asked you to describe NN stylistically shadowane, what would you tell them? I would argue that telling him/her that it's a hoppy amber really doesn't tell them all that much, but if you tell them it's IPA-liike, but a little sweeter/fruitier/jucier, I think most folks will probably get a fairly accurate impression of what NN is like (whether their idea of an IPA is SN torpedo, Loose Cannon. hop wallop or whatever).

    Again, Troegs can call the beer whatever style they want to, but if I'm asked to describe the beer to someone who has never had it before, IPA is probably going to be part of my description (not an amber).
     
  13. shadowane

    shadowane Zealot (631) Sep 7, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I'm fine with comparing it to an IPA since they are both hoppy, but that doesn't make it an IPA just because of that. I guess Amber / Red Ale doesn't have a ton of examples but they are out there. Your argument boils down trying to explain a style to someone that doesn't know the style which makes sense. It doesn't make the style wrong though.

    As far as the imperial part, I just chalk that up to saying its ABV is stronger than say 8% or so which is funny since Nugget Nectar is only 7.5%.

    edit: Also you totally took Lauren's side and now I hate you. Sorry!

    edit2: Also also, this is a silly tangent that I started in a thread about hilariously old Nugget Nectar being sold. We should probably just stop since it really doesn't matter either way.
     
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  14. ThoreauLikeAGirl

    ThoreauLikeAGirl Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2011 Pennsylvania

    o hai guyz. what's going on in here?
     
  15. AventinusCam

    AventinusCam Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 Maryland

    Does nobody realize that every single time Nugget Nectar is brought up these are the arguments that ensue?
     
  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Ha! If you think this is bad, go take a look at the "price gouging" thread over on beer talk.

    Today it's about Cantillon... yesterday it was about CBS, KBS, hopslam, bourbon country rare, etc.
     
  17. AventinusCam

    AventinusCam Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 Maryland

    Haha. I literally looked at it out of morbid curiosity. I left with a headache.
     
  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    It's a ramped-up version of Hop Back, which is clearly an Amber Ale even if it is on the hoppy side. The Imperial part just indicates that it has increased malt and hopping rates. I don't think that makes it a style of its own, it's just Troegs' way of classifying it, and it makes sense so long as you are familiar with Hop Back. There is definitely some overlap with an IPA, though, so you could probably approach it from either direction if you were to describe it to somebody.

    (This has probably also been said before, but what the hell, the genie is out of the bottle :wink: )
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Really? I've been a member here for a good long time and I don't think I have ever seen the IPA vs Amer. Amber argument about NN.

    I think I am going to start a thread now about how not just NN, but lots of beers don't taste as well as previous years' did, another topic ripe for discussion.
     
  20. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    :-) How quickly we forget.... what about the annual "does anyone else think this year's SN celebration isn't as good/hoppy as last year's?" It's an annual topic post that I look forward to every year when SN celebration is released.

    As for NN being a ramped up version of the hopback, that's news to me. Troegs has actually released a number of special kegs of double dry hopped versions of hopback over the years (great beer - much better than the regular hopback IMHO), and while delicious and very hoppy, it was nothing like NN. As for the imperial designation, I don't know why Troegs even bothers. I think at this point the designation is pretty much meaningless, and these days is more of a curiosity than anything else.
     
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