Spices & Belgian Ales (Omitting Wits)

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  1. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I’m considering adding Coriander (3/4 oz) and Seeds of Paradise (1/8 oz) to a Golden Strong. I’ve never brewed a Golden Strong; therefore I’m debating if perhaps it’s better to KIS. Other than Wits, what other Belgian styles have you successfully spiced? What spice combo and amounts have you gone with? Any conflicting flavor combinations to be aware of, for example, this yeast clashes with this spice?
     
  2. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Well I think the question here is " Do you like the flavor of Coriander and Seeds of Paradise in beer?" I personally do not care for Coriander so I do not brew with it. I do add a small amount of Paradise Seed in my Belgian Dark Strong and think it would go well in a Golden. With Belgian styles I prefer to get the flavor from the Malt and yeast. Good luck.
     
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  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    This sounds like a ton of spice!!! How big is your batch? I would just use like a half teaspoon of each for 5 gallons, something like that. Not measure in ounces!

    That said, those spices will work well in a Belgian strong. Go for it.

    I like to add my spices on bottling/kegging day. That's right. Crush and soak in an ounce or two of vodka overnight, then pour the vodka in a little at a time, tasting along the way until you get the right amount of spicing in the beer.
     
  4. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    @dmtaylor typo twice, meant tsp, not oz. Thanks for the feedback!
     
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  5. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Now that's better.

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  6. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I have had success adding these two spices to BSA, Blondes, and Saisons. You will find these in LaChouffe & Hennepin (and others) ... check out their ratings to see how others like them. Better yet, quaff these two and see what you think.

    For 5 gals consider ~ 0.30 - 0.60 oz of corriander and between 1/8 to 1/4 oz of GoP. Typically these go in at five minutes. When in doubt I push the upper limits. I've also had good results with "dry-spicing" these two in the keg when flavor was lacking. For yeast: have used with 3522, 3787, & Ommegang ... they all rock.
     
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  7. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I've used both in Saisons and Bieres de Noel. Unless I want folks to comment on the spice in a beer, I try to just use spices as an accent. There's a great table in Farmhouse Ales for amounts.

    I do find it weird that homebrewers will break out a drug dealer scale for hops and water adjustments, but most of us still use measuring spoons for spices.
     
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  8. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    If you have never brewed a Golden Strong, then I would suggest doing it first without spices. Use your favorite Belgian yeast strain and see what spice flavors it throws out on its own. I would even go so far as to brew a few batches with the same yeast, but play with fermentation temperatures each time to see what spicy/fruity flavors develop at different temps.
     
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