Spritzing malt before crush to keep static and dust down

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  1. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    Does anyone out there spritz their malt with water prior to crushing? I'll do this when it's really dry out to help keep the flour and husks down.

    My real question is does anyone see a problem with spritzing with star san solution? I always have a bottle of that around and it would be more convenient. Do you think that would impact mash Ph much? Without doing any math, my gut says no, since it would be so little solution added.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    This is an interesting question. I know a pro-brewer at a fairly big local brewery that uses a wet mill, ie the grains are milled after being wetted. The mill was very expensive. Apparently, this is done in order to reclaim some efficiency. So, you might be onto something...

    Regarding how much moisture and what the grains were moistened with? Sorry, I have no idea. Why would you want to use Star San instead of water?
     
  3. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Go to the 99 cent store, get another spray bottle, put water in it. Problem solved.
     
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  4. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    Hah! Welcome back. I have water spritz bottles around. I almost spritzed with star san the other day just because I had the bottle with me and it made me wonder if that would cause any issues in mash Ph.

    I always seem to have a bottle of star san handy, and not always a water bottle.
     
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I don't even want to know what trying to clean my barley crusher would be like when crushing with moist grain. Or what I'd find growing in it a few days later.
     
  6. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I do this all the time. Spray the malt, give it a good mix by hand, let it sit ten minutes, and then mill. Not only does it keep the dust down, the husks stay more intact, so you can crush a little bit finer.
    If you're gumming up the rollers when you condition your grain, you're using too much water.

    I wouldn't use star san solution, though.
     
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  7. rundownhouse

    rundownhouse Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2005 Tennessee

    Do it with the right amount of water and you're conditioning your malt, which as pointed out, can help increase efficiency and lautering speed. A google of "malt conditioning" will take you down a nice little rabbit hole.
     
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  8. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    I know that Sierra Nevada wets the grain before crushing it, although I'll be darned if I can remember why they say they do it. What I do remember is that it is a pretty exacting process--they don't just spray it down with a garden hose, they use precisely calibrated instrument to wet the grain to just the exact degree they want--and they certainly don't use sanitizer.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    yes, the husk becomes more elastic and will not shatter in the mill. you want a fine mist, so that only a little malt sticks to your hand if you run it through the grain.
    they are wet milling, the grain and water come in and the grain is conditioned, milled, and the milled grain has hot water add so it is at mash temp before it goes to the tun.
    http://www.geabrewery.com/geabrewery/cmsresources.nsf/filenames/Millstar_E.pdf/$file/Millstar_E.pdf

    I have conditioned malt at home, less dust n my eyes and nose is a benefit.
     
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  10. homebrew311

    homebrew311 Pooh-Bah (2,144) May 19, 2008 Illinois
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    I always add a bit of strike water first to my mash tun prior to adding the grain to keep the dust from being an issue. Not sure if this is an accepted practice but I find it helps prevents the mash from getting stuck.
     
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'll have to scoff at this on a homebrew level. While a few points of efficiency can lead to a trainload of grain on a bigger brewing level it's only a handful out of the bag on a homebrew level. My mill is one of the more expensive pieces of equipment I own and I abuse it enough. :slight_smile:
     
  12. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    The efficiency is just a bonus, an easy lauter is the main perk. Also, I've been doing it for a couple of years and the rollers on my mill have yet to show any sign of rust or mold. It's the pebbles that maltsters don't sort out that are doing the damage.
     
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  13. harsley

    harsley Maven (1,335) Jun 16, 2005 Massachusetts

    I started doing this a couple years ago to combat stuck mashes. Hot water in a spray bottle does the trick. It's not soaked, just enough to barely moisten. It has no effect on the cleanliness of my Barley Crusher.
     
  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I know a lot of guys conditioning their grains. If and when I get my own mill I will be going down this rabbit hole. I've seen it in practice and it makes mashing out a breeze.
     
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