St. Patrick's Day (beer) rituals?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BCarder, Feb 21, 2014.

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  1. MattyEdgeworth

    MattyEdgeworth Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Northern Ireland

    Arthur Guinness was of course from Ireland, therefore he was irish. I think what he is getting at is that at the time Ireland was still under the Union with Britain. Guinness was opposed to Irish independance, and wanted Ireland to stay in the union. I dont get that bit though, it was still founded in Ireland by and Irishman, where it is still brewed to this day. It is Irish.
     
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I've always assumed (and probably read in some article or another) that the Extra Stout brewed by Labatt and Moosehead for the US market is one of those "Guinness essence added to a base beer" concoctions.

    Apparently. Not a lot of "bulk shipping > racking to keg/bottling/canning in the US" going on in the brewing industry. (B. United is doing a bit of it, I guess). I've always read that ocean container shipping is one of the cheapest forms of transportation so returning stainless steel kegs empty is probably pretty cost effective - might even be cheaper than what it costs them and their wholesalers to get all the empties from their retailers and distributors back to a central location via truck in the US, and then into containers bound back to Ireland.

    (EDIT- I wouldn't be surprised if some distibutors go through enough Guinness kegs that they pack a container, and then Diageo USA coordinates trucking it to the docks?).

    But the full kegs are shipped from Ireland, as noted in this UK shipping industry website article:
     
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  3. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Car bombs. Lots of car bombs. Last year one of my local bars was selling them for $4, made with Youngs Double Chocolate rather than the traditional Guinness. They were sublime.
     
  4. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Might want to back of the use of the term "car bomb" when referring to a drink. I know it's what people call it, but in my experience (and echoed in this actual thread) a lot of folks, especially those living or having lived in Ireland, find that term very offensive.
     
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  5. jimmypa

    jimmypa Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Usually meet up with some long time friends that I only see a couple times a year in Southside, Pittsburgh. Festivities usually include shitty green beer with intermittent craft beers, also throw in Guinness, Smithwicks, Murphy's, Irish whiskey, and at least one or two Car Bombs for good measure...
     
  6. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I realize that. But it's also the commonly used term over here, and the easiest way to tell people what I'm talking about.

    I apologize if that offends someone.
     
  7. hogansct

    hogansct Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Rhode Island

    My family has a gathering (consisting of corn beef, etc) as we are part Irish. I've been getting Guinness foreign extra stout the past couple years and will probably continue the trend this year.
     
  8. Wiscobrew

    Wiscobrew Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2011 Nevada

    I learned the hard way, don't wear an orange shirt to the Irish Social club of Milwaukee bar.
     
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  9. dortenzio1991

    dortenzio1991 Crusader (486) Aug 12, 2011 Connecticut

    Ive been going up to Boston for the past 5 years on St Patricks day to meet up with friends up there. Mostly a day of Whiskey drinking with Guinness, although one time we ended up at Mija somehow and drank a bunch of tequila. More of a drinking with friends holiday than a craft pursuit, but I ended up with 2 Sucaba and a bunch of Jack's Abby stuff for the home when I went last year.
     
  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Staying sober. I don't drink on the "Amateur Hour" holidays. I do however, go out and observe the carnage.
     
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  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Guinness is a British company with its headquarters in London.
    Some of the best beers on the planet are of this strength or lower.Beer is after all for drinking not sipping.
     
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  12. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    It was when it was founded, or it is, at this time (2014)?
     
  13. MattyEdgeworth

    MattyEdgeworth Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Northern Ireland

    It was founded in Ireland, it's made in Ireland.
     
  14. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    The term 'car bomb' is offensive which is why Irish folk don't use it as a name for any of their beers or any of their whiskey. Those who do use it either are ignorant of their history or think it's a good thing to glorify the suffering of those who were killed and maimed by car bombs. Far far too many just love dredging up the same old shit while the site which advocates beer seems wilfully ignorant of how the beer market is starting change in Ireland. Why does no one want to talk about that?
     
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  15. MattyEdgeworth

    MattyEdgeworth Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Northern Ireland

    From the mid 20th century it's HQ has been in London. It's still brewed in Ireland.
     
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  16. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Just to point out, there are many other countries and cultures who have been far greater affected by car bombs than just Ireland. So in that respect, it is an offensive term for many, many people (including us in the United States).
    The term should offend everyone.

    I often drink a few pints of Guinness with a shot of Jameson's in it on St. Patricks Day, along with a large amount of corned beef.
     
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  17. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    It's just a little dark humor. Do you really think that ordering a drink means you aprove of terorist car bombings? Stop searching for things to be offended about and stop being so damn sensitive.
     
  18. MattyEdgeworth

    MattyEdgeworth Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Northern Ireland

    How the hell is it searching for something to be offended about? It may be dark humour, but nobodies laughing. Would you find it funny if someone made a 'little dark humour' about 9/11? or other terrorist attacks against the USA?

    Even the actual drink doesn't sound good to me, seems like a waste of beer and a waste of whiskey.
     
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  19. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    All I'm saying is that a tounge-in-cheek name for a drink is a huge leap to actually glorifying the suffering of people killed or maimed in car bombs as someone suggested. Every poor taste insensitive joke is not a hate crime.
     
  20. MattyEdgeworth

    MattyEdgeworth Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Northern Ireland

    I don't think anyone is saying that people are condoning or glorifying the attacks, I'm not at least. However, its definitely not funny. Tongue-in-cheek or not, its nothing to make jokes about. Its not even just because its insensitive to stuff that happened during the troubles, though it is, its insensitive to stuff that happens even today. I know PSNI officers who check under their cars every morning.

    So yes, of course people don't mean to condone anything and they didn't name it, but it is an extremely stupid name. People should stop tacky crap like that and try some good Irish craft beers.
     
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