Release Stone 2018 Release Calendar

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by WesMantooth, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Poo-Bah (2,412) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,573) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Oh, also IPAs. We still really like IPAs.”

    The Year Round Beers listed:

    · Stone IPA

    · Stone Delicious IPA

    · Stone Tangerine Express IPA

    · Stone Ripper Pale Ale

    · Stone Go To IPA

    · Stone Ruination Double IPA

    Yup, they sure are doubling down (tripling down?) on hoppy beer products.

    I suppose the fact that Stone IRS is returning this year as a seasonal (March – June) is some diversification of their beer lineup?

    Cheers!
     
  3. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Devotee (488) Mar 19, 2012 California

    Very, very disappointing. No Double Bastard. No Ruinten. No OG. Stone has turned into an IPA Company. Sad.

    May be I'm just confused with Arrogant Bastard being a separate brand (Double Bastard would be released under it). Or is it. Sigh.
     
  4. CNoj012

    CNoj012 Poo-Bah (1,560) Dec 7, 2014 New York
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    I won't lie, Ruination 3.0 has piqued my interest.
     
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  5. redeemer

    redeemer Initiate (21) Apr 3, 2017 California
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    I'm wondering what the difference between Ruination 2.0 and Ruination 3.0 is going to be. I'm also kinda bummed Enjoy By is only coming out four times next year, since I buy more of that than any other Stone beer these days.

    At least there's some version of their IRS coming out next year. Does anyone know what the difference between the standard IRS and their "Totalitarian Imperial Russian Stout" is?
     
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  6. MJS08

    MJS08 Disciple (328) Jul 29, 2014 Florida
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    And, what's up with "Scorpion Bowl IPA"?
     
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  7. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Devotee (407) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    The email I got said it's based on their classic IRS but they're adding some new and exciting hops.
     
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  8. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Devotee (407) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    "Our newest full-time addition to the lineup. In a time of fruit-dominated beers, this one really masters the fruity appeal with absolutely no fruit additions."
     
  9. dlcarst

    dlcarst Initiate (164) Aug 21, 2015 Illinois
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    Double Bastard wouldn't be on there, since it is officially a different brand. I'm glad to see IRS, albeit a new version, especially in six packs, which is something I've been waiting for for years. No OG still sucks though.
     
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  10. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (175) Feb 28, 2017 North Carolina

    Solid release calendar, but it could use some more IPAs. :confused::thinking_face:
     
  11. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Initiate (128) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    I remember when Stone was easily among my favorite breweries. And while they can still make some great beer, they have become a hollow trendy shell of their former selves. I get it you brew great IPA's and they are whats selling nowadays. But why alienate your true fanbase who helped propel you into what you've become today. We miss your diversity Stone, bring back RIS, Smoked Porter, Old Guardian, SSR, Double Bastard etc. They are sorely missed!
     
  12. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Poo-Bah (2,412) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    And now I am no longer intrigued.
     
  13. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Initiate (128) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    Oh and if they love brewing IPA's so much, then they should re-visit the collaboration with Ishii, and Baird. That Japanese green tea IPA was phenomenal.
     
  14. MJS08

    MJS08 Disciple (328) Jul 29, 2014 Florida
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    Thanks. I believe I can say there will be absolutely no fruit additions to my beer consumption, real, fake, or imaginary.
     
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  15. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Disciple (306) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico
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    Doubling down on ipas? Is that the way to go? I only tend to buy fresh ipas (which happens to either be local stuff or regionals that push out seasonals). I guess I'm in the minority?

    What's the point of having 8 ipas on a shelf when more than half are always at least 6 weeks old? I guess people are buying them? Since I know he celandar, I guess I can try to find the seasonals at their freshest.

    Other than an occasional enjoy by, I can't say that I remember my last stone IPA, delicious IPA, go to IPA, or pretty much any other IPA. I did love their espresso IRS which they no longer make. They're going the opposite of diversity and I don't like it.
     
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  16. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Zealot (579) Dec 12, 2014 California

    Only IPAs except 3 stouts...
     
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  17. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Aspirant (208) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    I would buy more Stone mixed packs if that damn Delicious IPA wasn't in there. Looks like I'll have a window to during the summer.
     
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  18. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Aspirant (298) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    I agree but honestly almost 100% IPAs with some stouts mixed in is how a good percentage of the craft drinkers consume craft. The consumers drive what breweries do. Craft beer in general is moving in the opposite direction of diversity.
     
  19. Beernut9230

    Beernut9230 Initiate (161) Aug 17, 2016 New York
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    Everyone still hunting fresh ipas.. Just imagine if they were as passionate about doing something more productive
     
  20. Tdizzle

    Tdizzle Zealot (540) Dec 19, 2006 California

    Can't argue with this. I greatly miss the Stone of yore, but they're clearly making business decisions based on what they believe "the market" is demanding. Can't blame them. Of course I would love it if they doubled down on their original core lineup and not a bunch of new IPAs, but I guess I'm in the minority.
     
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  21. emannths

    emannths Aspirant (215) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    You're definitely in the minority if you don't buy IPAs over 45 days old. Maybe not among a BA subset, but almost certainly among Stone customers. (fwiw, my personal rule of thumb is that I want to consume IPAs within 60-75 days of packaging)

    I find Stone to be pretty good at keeping the beer on the shelf fresh, with the exception of a few stores that seem to be repeat offenders. They certainly beat the pants off of Sierra Nevada, where nothing younger than 60 days seems to hit the shelf.
     
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  22. dlcarst

    dlcarst Initiate (164) Aug 21, 2015 Illinois
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    Stouts and IPAs combined make up maybe 1/3 of my consumption, and it amazes me that as much more variety there is in available brands today than when I got into craft ~five years ago, there is less variety in styles. I find myself having to stock up when I'm somewhere with good variety and ignoring my local stores except when I know something is being released. I sorely miss Old Guardian, because barleywines are flat out difficult to come by. And of course Double Bastard, because there really is no other beer quite like it. I think Stone will find that 6 pack IRS will be very successful, and I hope they follow suit with OG and DB next year.
     
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  23. Brewday

    Brewday Initiate (186) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    What happened to the Stone rep that use to visit here. It's nice hearing straight from someone in a company.
     
  24. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Defender (690) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island

    I'm glad they're not bothering with past mediocre offerings like the coffee stout and citrusy wit. Overall I would be perfectly fine with this schedule if Old Guardian was on there somewhere.

    That being said, Stone has definitely lost it's way with me a bit. I no longer get excited for their new offerings like I would in the "old" days.
     
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  25. waltari

    waltari Initiate (137) Jan 28, 2016 Georgia

    w00tstout in 6-pack! Cannot wait.
     
  26. Stout_Sabre

    Stout_Sabre Aspirant (239) Jan 17, 2015 New York

    Really just interested in Ruination 3.0, the return of RIS and Xocoveza. If they ever ax Xocoveza I might cry. Almost did hearing Founders isn't doing their imperial stout this year. Also..wootstout, keep making that please
     
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  27. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (2,503) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Here I was thinking maybe, just maybe, some major regional brewery was brave enough to brew with scorpion peppers and distribute it.
     
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  28. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (2,503) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    People like what they know, and IPA and Stouts are two popular terms in the beer world. It's easy for the average consumer to say "I want an IPA" at the bar, and get something good. Since these styles are requested so often, they are well stocked by business savvy breweries and bars. After all, why fill a line with a barleywine or two if you could move 2 or 3 times that if you filled it up with a couple popular IPAs.

    Consumers driving the market place is good and bad, unfortunately, some don't see beer as the diversity that is, and rather as just beer. Unfortunately, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better, especially if interest in craft beer starts to wane and breweries have to rely more heavily on bang for their buck batches.

    Personal note, I'd like to see more barleywines as well. It's a style that is truly a treat to sip on in the fall and winter months. My most prized bottles downstairs aren't limited stouts or quads, but the few barleywines I've saved for a later date.
     
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  29. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,380) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    As to the diversity issue, it's looking more and more to me that the percentage of the more 'enthusiast' type beer drinker out of the overall total is remaining constant. It may seem like there are more of us due to the huge amount of 'craft' beer being sold, but the truth is that the majority are still crossover drinkers who just aren't into it the same way.

    So, yeah, it's a double edged sword when it comes to certain brewers streamlining their lineups, but I bet you will see smaller brewers picking up the slack.
     
  30. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,369) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    No Coffee Milk Stout or Americano Stout? :cry:
    I loved Americano! I also wish they would bring back Citrusy Wit! I absolutely loved that beer. :weary:
     
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  31. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Meyvn (1,171) Jul 27, 2013 California
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    Seems like less releases? In 2017 they had Punk in Drublic and Vengeful Spirit....I enjoyed both.
     
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  32. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (2,503) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Agreed. Regional breweries are fighting with local breweries for sales more and more. It just makes sense, business wise, to try and produce styles that won't sit on shelves until the next release. (Un)fortunately, that seems to be done by producing more and more IPAs, at least in the case of Stone.

    Fortunately, there are still plenty of good, local breweries around here producing a wide variety of beer styles.
     
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  33. BeerCosby

    BeerCosby Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2015 Rhode Island
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    Not liking Arrogant being separate from Stone for branding, since now it's more of just wait and see with fingers crossed that Double Bastard comes back and hopefully another Bastard Box.

    As far as the actual release schedule; good to see Tangerine Express is 6 packs, Ruination 3.0 has my interest, hop worship sounds interesting, and I see myself getting multiple 12 packs with the Ripper and Tangerine Express (though Ghost Hammer would be great in those packs as well).
     
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  34. Giantspace

    Giantspace Defender (692) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    At least go to is still in 16 oz cans. I pay $8.99 a six and it's always fresh when I see it. It's a buy 3-4 times a year for me as well as AB in 16 oz cans as well for $9.99

    Other than that Stone is not on my radar. Too expensive and nothing that great.

    Enjoy
     
  35. Giantspace

    Giantspace Defender (692) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania


    That wit was good.

    Enjoy
     
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  36. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (175) Feb 28, 2017 North Carolina

    Imperial Russian Stout is the best decision/thing on this calendar. Especially in 6-pack format.
     
  37. ESHBG

    ESHBG Aspirant (270) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Stone was never one of my favorites but I appreciated their product. I'm quickly growing tired of IPAs and like some others have said there are more beers nowadays but less diversity, oddly enough.

    I have mixed feelings about this being what consumers want too and the trend may be winding down, I see lots of well regarded IPAs collecting dust.
     
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  38. cmiller4642

    cmiller4642 Disciple (319) Aug 17, 2013 West Virginia
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    Stone's new IPA's were hit and miss last year.

    Ghost was meh
    Vengeful Spirit was really good

    Give me Unfiltered Enjoy By any day of the week. One of my favorite IPA's to this day.
     
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  39. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,573) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But ironically the beer style that is most sensitive to age are IPAs. Considering the number of IPA brands on shelves this competition leads to plenty of old IPAs on my local beer store shelves.

    Cheers!
     
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  40. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,573) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I can anecdotally report there are plenty of non-IPA beers available from my local breweries - both for on premise and off premise consumption.

    Cheers!