Stone Brewing Enjoy By Brut IPA

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  1. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I've haven't had the style yet, but reading the specs on this one, I'm not sure it even is the style or how its different then the regular enjoy by other than "This variant of our Enjoy By IPA series features innovative brewing techniques that give it a bright effervescence and a super-dry finish." Says its 90 IBUs still which I thought goes against the Brut IPA characteristics. Anyone try this or anyone from Stone willing to shed more info?

    https://www.stonebrewing.com/beer/stone-enjoy-ipa-series/stone-enjoy-010119-brüt-ipa
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I do not have specific details on exactly what the Stone brewers are doing but the concept for brewing Brut IPAs is that you add an enzyme (amylase enzyme) while brewing to eliminate the vast majority of sugars. This results in a beer that is super dry.

    For the interested reader: http://www.thebeerscholar.com/beer-...cisco-is-it-the-next-big-thing-how-to-make-it

    Cheers!
     
  3. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I may actually pick up this one. I've been enjoying a few brut IPAs lately, including one last night at a local brewery. It was their first go at the style and I think they did well.
     
  4. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Right, i've read up on it in craft beer and brewing. But that super dry finish is from a really low final gravity. Usually if you pair that with high IBUs you'll get some really bitter beer, so most brewers of the style go fairly low IBUs like a saison.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What was the bitterness level of that beer?

    Cheers!
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am uncertain how to respond to "usually". The originator of the Brut IPA 'style' chose to solely add hops at the end of boil and dry hopping so that beer had lower bitterness but I have not had enough Brut IPAs to know if the other brewers are doing the same.

    Take note of the question I posed in post #5 above.

    Cheers!

    P.S. There are no style guidelines for the Brut IPA 'style' so there is no definition for brewers to follow.
     
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  7. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Bitterness was low. Big tropical fruit in the aroma, with a smaller showing of tropical fruit in the flavor profile, cut by a very dry finish. The finish was the most bitter, and seemed to be driven more by exposed malts vs. bitter hops.

    I also asked them how they brewed it (I've been curious what makes a 'brut' IPA different from a standard American IPA). He said they used an enormous amount of galaxy hops late in the brewing process (I'm still learning about the brewing process) to dry it out, and then added a little pineapple puree to bring back some of the sweetness.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    There was no mention of an enzyme (amylase enzyme) used?

    Cheers!
     
  9. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    He mentioned one in passing, but admittedly, it went over my head. It could very well be amylase. He emphasized the large galaxy dry hopping throughout the conversation though.
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, that is where the bulk of the aroma/flavor of the beer is coming from. Plus that is a large cost factor for a smaller production brewery.

    Cheers!
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe @StoneBrewing will join in this thread discussion?

    Cheers!
     
  12. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    There is a style description here on BA though:
    American Brut IPA
    One of the newest styles to excite brewers and drinkers alike, Brut IPA first appeared in California in late 2017 and is notable for its effervescence and extreme dryness. Pale straw to pale gold, this style is intended to be lighter in color and body than a typical American IPA. For that reason, the mash is often some combination of Pilsner malt, wheat, corn, and/or rice. The addition of an amylase enzyme reduces the final gravity even further. Bitterness is also kept to a minimum. Fruit-forward flavors and aromas are achieved by late hopping, dry hopping, and the use of neutral ale yeast strains. In short, these beers are highly attenuated, late hopped IPAs inspired by the appearance and mouthfeel of Champagne.
     
  13. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I'm looking forward to trying it anyway. I've never had a Brut IPA, but I enjoy the stone enjoy by series anyway which I think this will be more leaning towards.
     
  14. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    I'm in for one if I come across it.
     
  15. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Another Stone release, another IPA.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am unsure if brewers ‘follow’ what is listed on Beer Advocate but perhaps this is a harbinger this ‘style’ will appear in the Brewers Association 2019 Beer Style Guidelines?

    If so, it will be interesting to see what the Brewers Association Style Guideline lists for bitterness.

    Cheers!
     
  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I've had a Homebrewed version and 2 commercial versions of Brut IPA. A Homebrewed version of my own is in the plans.

    It is a very drinkable style. This Stone version would be super bitter on paper. I might see if my local multitap has it. They percieved bitterness might be fine with the fruity dry hops.

    The Alpha and Beta Amylase enzymes that are present in malt break 1-4 bonds in the sugar and starch molecules, do no break the 1-6 bonds. The enzyme used for Brut IPAs is amyloglucosidase, which breaks the 1-6 bonds and creates fermentable sugars. This product is popular with distillers that can use it to maximize the sugar, even in unmalted grains. Using this enzyme Brut IPAs can get down to a final gravity of 1.000 or 0.998.

    This is one of the products used in Brut IPA. https://www.whitelabs.com/ultraferm
     
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  18. beernuts

    beernuts Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 Virginia

    I was excited to try this as I’ve never had a brut IPA. I saw it on the shelf just a little while ago and was about to pick it up until I saw that its 9.4%, wtf!!! Why is this a normal thing now? I don’t want to drink beers that get me smashed and make me pass out, that’s not fun.
     
  19. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Just gave a local shop a call and they said they have it now. I'll be picking it up tonight and reviewing it as early as tonight.

    Very curious on this one, as I've very much enjoyed most of the brut IPAs I've had so far.
     
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  20. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Knowing Stone off the charts bitterness is probably what they were going for. :wink: This is out in my area but I didn't pick it up, if I can get a single or see it on tap I would try it. I had the opportunity to try New Belgium's Brut IPA and I enjoyed it and open to trying more of this style.
     
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