Stone Enjoy By UNFILTERED

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  2. turbotype

    turbotype Savant (1,035) Nov 5, 2013 California

    Yea, drink from the keg sounds great, if it was a viable option. Just cut out the middle man! Personally, I don't drink beer from a can. I prefer to buy beer in a can because I feel its a superior packaging product, but I still pour it into a glass, unless its some sort of session beer. (Not session IPA, just a beer that I chug down in a "session") But when I tried Heady, I tried from the can and from the glass. Neither were overly impressive to me, but to each their own. The Heady in the glass tasted better.

    I just can't buy off on the theory that a beer is intentionally canned with text on said can saying "Drink from the Can" because the brewer thought the beer was ugly. You really think John Kimmich had the foresight to say "ohh well this is ugly, I better not let people see it" ? Heck no. He put it in a can because its the superior method for storing his product. He SUGGESTS to drink it from the can because that's how he likes to drink it for reasons he outlined in a video I posted a few pages back. I think if it was about money and marketing, he would say drink from a glass, then sell us a fancy glass, much like Duvel Moortgat does. Some may be thinking to themselves "well Duvel is a magnificent looking beer". Well, it is if you pour like Duvel suggests. But you pour that "yeast shot" at the bottom of the bottle in your Duvel tulip, your beer ends up a little hazy.

    Ugly beer has been around for ages. Heck this "bottle conditioned" Orval I am drinking right now looks like a murky mess, but boy does she taste good. Doesn't say drink from the bottle on it. It could look like toilet water after an episode of the Taco Bell blowouts and could not care less. I'm fairly certain a large portion of the BeerAdvocate community agrees with that. Ok, maybe not the Taco Bell part, but haziness in general. Now due the success of these hazy IPAs from New England, the copycats have to cash in. Can't wait until someone starts adding "natural color enhancers". :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  3. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Well, they do suggest how to pour it on their website.



    How to serve Orval

    Dear Fans of Orval,Serving an Orval is an art.

    Below are a few practical tips. Open the bottle by using a good bottle opener securely held in the hand. Never use another object for this such as a lighter, a knife, etc. When opening, apply some pressure to the cap so that it stays on the bottle. You will hear the pressure escaping from the bottle. When removing the cap, you will notice that it stays on the open bottle.

    Slowly pour the beer into a special Orval glass without shaking the bottle. Hold the bottle horizontally and slightly tilt the glass. In a flowing movement, slowly straighten it until only one cm is left in the bottle.

    Enjoy !

    CONSERVATION

    It will bring pleasure to those who drink it if they observe the following rules :
    Beer, a refined drink for the same reasons as wine, must be stored away from light, at a temperature between 10° and 15°C (46° and 56°F). It should be served at this same temperature and in its special glass, and its sediment should be tasted separately.
     
  4. beernuts

    beernuts Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 Virginia

    I have not had any of the Treehouse/Trillium IPAs but I have had a lot of the ones from Tired Hands (I don't know how similar they are). In my opinion, what makes those beers juicy and unique is not the haze, its the low bitterness combined with a creamy mouthfeel from the oats, expressive english yeast, and lots and lots of dry hopping. The haze might be a by product or even an intentional look, but I don't think its what is responsible for the character of those beers.
     
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  5. turbotype

    turbotype Savant (1,035) Nov 5, 2013 California

    Thanks for the tip, but I know how to serve it, but I just pour and drink it. Like I said, I honestly don't care what it looks like. Actually, the yeast shot is probably the best part. Duvel yeast shot not so much, but Orval yea baby. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  6. vabeerguy

    vabeerguy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,245) Sep 21, 2015 Virginia
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    Not me. Not yet, anyway.
     
  7. Oidmoe

    Oidmoe Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Austria

    Awesome, thanks Greg. After waiting all these years I am sure I will be able to make it to April :wink: In the meantime I am definitely signing up for the Insider Alert!
     
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  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    My apologies, I didn't mean to imply that's how you have to pour it, certainly to each his own. I was simply stating that they DO recommend serving it a certain way, it's definitely debatable and up to personal preference.

    I prefer to slow pour it, and leave the yeast out until the end to see the difference. Personally I don't like the flavor profile the yeast sediment adds unless it's a wheat beer.

    And yes, Orval is awesome!
     
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  9. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut


    im done i feel it was before 2013 this crazy existed mayeb becaus ei live on the east but watever at this point.
    and the drink form the can sint marketing. John K wrote an arcticle around the reopening of there brewery in 2013 after sandy. statign the drink fromt he can was there to bring back the nostolgic feel of drinkign a beer from a can

    2010 was the start of the heady topper craze. The beer was originally pub only. where they were having problems with people stealing it ( employees out the back, and people pouring it into empty bottles). Then also in 2010 they canned it for the first time. This is where we saw the start of the "Heady Topper Lines" seeing your form Mass you already know what i mean. People waiting for hours to get one of those first 600 cans.
    2011 the brewery weas wipped out before there first batch can be released. this is all the start of the "craze"
    Heady topper then being released in 2013 with everyone wanting it becasue the "hype" that was created from 2010 when it was "beer pub only."
    so theres my "anecdotal evidence"

    so we can sit here and pull teeth on which date you want to say.

    http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/articles/2011/10/15/heady_topper_may_be_the_worlds_best_ipa/
     
  10. pinyin

    pinyin Savant (1,119) Sep 19, 2013 New York

    bought a six of this yesterday and it's a great ale.

    it kind of threw me off though because i figured by the name it would be hazy or cloudy.

    it's very clear.

    it tastes exactly like regular Enjoy By to me.
     
  11. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Pooh-Bah (1,710) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina
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    Probably my favorite enjoy by definitely more citusy and juicy. Not as hazy I would have thought..light shows lots of particles for sure tho. Unfiltered doesn't mean hazy.
    Wish they would make this a year round...but cheaper..
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    @breadwinner, have you tried the Unfiltered Stone Enjoy By yet?

    The two above posts indicate that this beer is not very hazy.

    Cheers!
     
  13. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Pooh-Bah (2,481) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    filtered schmiltered. I want floaties!
     
  14. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    I haven't yet, Jack. Too many other beers I'm working through at the moment:slight_smile: That said, you can see a pretty comprehensive set of pics of the beer here --> https://untappd.com/b/stone-brewing-co-stone-enjoy-by-02-14-16-unfiltered-ipa/1355458/photos

    To me, there looks like a lot of bottles that exhibit noticeable haze. Certainly not milkshake level haze, and certainly variation, with some bottles being clearer than others, but haze nonetheless. That's just to my eye anyway.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, all pictures indicate some haziness.

    I think the 'best' photograph is the one with the Hill Farmstead goblet (looks like a wine glass). The symbol on the glass is on the backside of the glass and you can still see it. This beer is definitely not of the murky/opaque/milkshake quality that you see in photographs of beers like Trillium beers.

    Cheers!
     
  16. starrdogg

    starrdogg Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2010 District of Columbia

    Heady Topper was not canned in 2010. It was draft-only until they put out a limited number of 22 oz bottles in the Fall of 2010 (I should know, my 1st ever trade was for one of them!). In 2011, they opened the cannery a few days after the storm wiped out the original Alchemist brewpub (a mere month after I visited it for my first and only time). This information is on their website too, if you don't believe me: http://alchemistbeer.com/. I returned to Waterbury in early 2012 and remember being able to buy absurd amounts of Heady from the brewery itself without a line.
     
  17. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Do you plan on buying any bottles, Jack?
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    No, I refuse to purchase Stone Enjoy By in bottles. I am not a fan of the Stone pricing structure for special release bottled beers.

    If I find the Unfiltered Enjoy By on tap I will order one glass.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I have no problem buying Stone year round beers like Stone IPA. The pricing of those beers is more reasonable.
     
  19. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Gotcha. Does PA have any places that let you break up six-packs to buy singles? Might be a more cost effective way to try it out, but I know that not all states allow that.
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, the price for a single bottle of a 'typical' beer is around $4. I refuse to pay $4 for a 12 ounce bottle (that 'translates' to a 6-pack price of $24). Some places let you do a mix-a-six for the neighborhood of ten bucks but the beers available for this are limited and at my local store the majority of the beers available for a mix-a-six are old (past their best by date).

    I will only drink Stone Enjoy By on draft since my local beer bars only charge a small premium on the price as compared to comparable beers.

    Cheers!
     
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