Stone Pale Ale 2.0 Full Details

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  1. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    http://www.stonebrewing.com/pale/

    We haven't seen this yet in NJ but it looks like its going to be using all or at least mostly European Hops and Malts which really surprised me for Stone's revised Pale Ale. I was expecting Mosaic, Citra, mabey Neslon Sav, and/or any of thoses other "new" hops that have been gaining alot of traction. Instead they went German style on this American Pale ale! Have to say, I give them credit for experimenting on new German Hops but what do you guys think?
     
    #1 DEdesings57, Apr 27, 2015
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  2. scottbrew4u

    scottbrew4u Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I think if anyone can bring out the great flavors of those German hops it would be the brewers at Stone! They now how to use hops well. With that said I look forward to trying it when I see it.
     
    #2 scottbrew4u, Apr 27, 2015
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  3. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Their Gotterdammerung IPA from a coupla years ago used pilsener malts and German hops and it was awesome...
     
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  4. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    A local brewery uses Magum, hersbrucker, and tettnang as kettle hops. Hersbrucker, and tettnang were used as dry hops for a local pilsner. At 45 IBU, it's nearly that of a pale ale.

    Stone should just go ahead and do a real lager, with Bavarian Lager yeast, and call it a IPL.
     
    #4 Oktoberfiesta, Apr 27, 2015
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  5. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    Not sounding like an upgrade, but I'll be interested to try.
     
    #5 bobhits, Apr 27, 2015
  6. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Any word from Stone why they are putting so many beers out as 2.0 recently?
     
    #6 PA-Michigander, Apr 27, 2015
  7. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    yea, I was surprised as well. If this is Stone's take on a modern american pale but use European hops, does this mean stone thinks the future is not in American gown hops?
     
    #7 DEdesings57, Apr 27, 2015
  8. bkov33

    bkov33 Zealot (666) Dec 5, 2007 New Jersey

    probably someone new or poor sales
     
    #8 bkov33, Apr 27, 2015
  9. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    I will definitely give it a go.
     
    #9 bluehende, Apr 27, 2015
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  10. DEdesings57

    DEdesings57 Pooh-Bah (2,556) Aug 26, 2012 New Jersey
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    As far as I know its only for revisions of previous beers. Although the tagline "2.0" is rather un-interesting its lets the consumer know its in relation to a previous similar product. But if a new consumer never tried the original product then calling it 2.0 is pointless because they never got to know 1.0.
     
    #10 DEdesings57, Apr 27, 2015
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  11. bobhits

    bobhits Maven (1,498) Oct 31, 2006 Ohio

    I'm not sure WHERE the hops come from matters. The magic of the american craft movement is that we're so open minded to all styles, yeasts, hops etc. It's a melting pot and that's why we do so well. That said the flavors mentioned aren't bad, but the original stone pale ale was just great. If they aren't going with a zombie dust type "fake pale ale" I don't get how this is a better profile. I like the toasted caramel malts with a nice hop finish of the pale ale. Oh well. Bring in the new stone, I'lll do a case :slight_smile:
     
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  12. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    It was memorable, Gotterdamerung. I would buy the pale ale to try it.
     
    #12 utopiajane, Apr 27, 2015
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  13. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Maybe they are trying to gain some ground in Germany before the brewery opens. I imagine this beer would be even better over there once they are brewing and can use the hops as fresh as they come.
     
    #13 jageraholic, Apr 27, 2015
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  14. kaz4121

    kaz4121 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2011 Massachusetts

    Same reason cars designs change every 4 or 5 years: marketing.
     
    #14 kaz4121, Apr 27, 2015
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  15. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    But they don't call their new car Ford Focus 2.0. It keeps the same name with a new look.
     
    #15 PA-Michigander, Apr 27, 2015
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  16. mattosgood

    mattosgood Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2014 Massachusetts

    Plain and simple. Pale Ale 2.0, Ruination 2.0, RuinTen, Enjoy By, Enjoy After, Collaboration series, Odd Year Releases ... and so on.
     
    #16 mattosgood, Apr 27, 2015
  17. PaulyB83

    PaulyB83 Maven (1,399) Sep 1, 2013 Michigan

    I wish bars around me got kegs of Stone year round stuff, we seem to only get kegs of Enjoy By, RIS, and some of the collaboration stuff.
     
    #17 PaulyB83, Apr 27, 2015
  18. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    Volkswagen calls their new Golf in commercials and stuff always with a new number-Golf,GolfII,Golf III..GolfVII. and so on. With the Transporter Line, the official name allso ins numbered,and his always been this way:T1,T2...T6.
     
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  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Mandarina Bavaria is such a great hop. If they secured a good supply, why not design a beer around it?

    Why do they use so many NZ and AU hops in Enjoy By? I think they like the unique aromas.
     
    #19 hopfenunmaltz, Apr 27, 2015
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  20. nesarebad

    nesarebad Pooh-Bah (1,868) Feb 4, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Magnum is a classic Pale Ale hop, so I do not think they are going too crazy. It is not like they are using classic noble hops. Some of these 'new' hops have lineage to European hops as well.

    Edit - read up on Mandarina Bavaria and it was cultivated from Cascade, so there is that too.
     
    #20 nesarebad, Apr 27, 2015
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