Stones Epic failure??

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by CA_Infidel2o9, Dec 21, 2012.

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  1. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    Update: Tap takeover in town gave me the chance to try the 08 and 09. The 08 had this fantastic lychee flavor that held up amazingly. In contrast, I didn't care as much for the 09. Good stuff overall.
     
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  2. 71gto

    71gto Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2009 Illinois

    Maybe it is just called "hatch green chillis" to the locals, interesting. Never looked at the bottle.
     
  3. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    Although I don't smoke, and I wouldn't, and I tend to want to believe that smoking would have a significant effect on the palate, I present you these:

    You'll notice that study #1 says "It dulls your palate, noticeable differences etc" Study #2 says "no noticeable difference in ability to taste between smokers and non-smokers (although other differences are noted) "

    http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20090821/cigarette-smoke-dulls-taste-buds

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20830760

    Both 'seem' legit, so again, I choose to lean towards the safe-side, besides, there are many other reasons to not smoke anyways.
     
  4. Hopswagger

    Hopswagger Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 South Carolina

    I found it to be a huge success. I had 3-12 and 7 and 9 on wine barrels and 10 on French oak. They all held up nicely and I was shocked at how well 3, 4 and 5 held up. Oxidation was present but by no means ruined any of them. At 9 the beers really arrived and had better vivacious flavor profiles. The 5.05.05 was my favorite but I really didn't hate any of them. The IPA and the 4 were my least favorites. As far as 10 years of aging I think it really worked out well. IMO.
     
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  5. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    as someone who drank Fine Beer almost daily for years before i quit and years after, i'll confirm that quitting makes a huge difference on your palate (for food too), for the better.

    if people want to smoke, i'm all for it, as long as they understand the trade offs. i loved smoking. i love the benefits i get from having quit even more.

    (edit: re: studies... this is sort of like "is smoking unhealthy?" of course it is, you get ash in your lungs. is sitting next to a campfire and breathing in for hours healthy? given how much taste is associated with smell, and all the smells constant smoke barrage dulls as well as the congestion and such, it's pretty clear what's up)

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    re: VEs, i'd love to do a full tasting. i've had 4~11 at various times and i really like them as curiosities and (occasionally) great beers. my only complaint is that i didn't buy a case of VE09.
     
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  6. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    I may have misspoke - I know it has been scientifically established that smoking affects olfactory sense, which is a primary contributor to "flavor." While it may not affect morphology of your tastebuds, it most certainly affects your perception of flavor in food and drink. I can post links, but they're pretty easy to find on Google.

    I know this anecdotally as many people in my family are/were smokers.
     
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