Stout- Yeast

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  1. jburke06

    jburke06 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2011 New York

    Hey guys and gals,
    I recently brewed a generic American Stout (8.2 abv). I used the Safale US-50 and it came out good but i wanted to know is their a better yeast strain to use? Thanks in advance, Cheers!
    -Jay
     
  2. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I have not used it in a long time, actually it's been too long since I've brewed a stout, but I've always loved WY1028 London Ale for stouts and porters. It attenuates well (I like my dark beers dry) and has a great flavor profile. I used this yeast all the time before I had temperature control, even for lighter ale styles, because the temperature range is very forgiving.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Is there something specific you are looking for?

    I homebrew an Oatmeal Stout at least twice a year and I have brewed that beer using lots of different yeast but for the past 5+ years US-05 is my yeast of choice. For me it lets the dark malt flavors 'shine'.

    Cheers!
     
  4. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    S-04 is also fine for a stout.
     
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  5. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I just made the best stout I ever made with none other than... Munton's ale yeast. 99 cents. I'll be using that one again in future. It's very fruity and kind of crazy tasting, but in a stout, the dark roasted malts overwhelm it's crazy fruity character.
     
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  6. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    If you can get past the "raw bread dough" aroma.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have used S-04 to brew my Oatmeal Stout. It worked just fine with zero perceptible "dough" in that beer.

    Cheers!
     
  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Never really get that although I've seen t reported a million times. Don't know if my palate could pick that up through the roast Malts.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Me too. I have used S-04 for a number of beers: the aforementioned Oatmeal Stout, a so called 'NEIPA', etc. I have never picked up "dough" in any of the beers that I have brewed with that yeast strain but all of those beers had expressive flavors from the other ingredients (e.g., dark malts, a shit-ton of hops, etc.).

    Maybe if I brewed a Blonde Ale using S-04 I might pick up "dough" in that beer?:thinking_face:

    Cheers!
     
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  10. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    @JackHorzempa i made a cream ale with so4 cause I was lazy and didn't have 05 on hand. It was horrific.
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    As in doughy?

    Cheers!
     
  12. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Yes and way to much yeast notes for a supposed to be crisp beer
     
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  13. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    @Prep8611 @JackHorzempa

    I probably should have added more content to my post, since this ongoing debate might be new to some posters on this forum. I know plenty of people love S04 and never get the raw bread dough aroma. Others do. My post was just meant to simply be a warning that S04 is not for everyone.

    Myself, I get that aroma every time. About a year ago I gave it a second chance after swearing it off for years. The beer was a dark mild and the aroma was highly present.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you ever used S-04 to brew a 'bold' beer (e.g., IPA)?

    Cheers!
     
  15. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Never have. Just English-style ales.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The nice feature of US-05 is that it is quite neutral and it gets 'out of the way' if you desire to feature other flavors.

    Cheers!
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I suspect you would not perceive 'doughy' if you used S-04 to brew 'bold' beers. I can report that I don't.

    Cheers!
     
  18. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I just made a Scottish 60/- with S-04 and 3.8% ABV. It tastes pretty clean and malty but I would not say "doughy". In future I would rather use a Scottish yeast though for a Scottish ale. S-04 is kind of too bland for me. It should be just fine in a stout though. But not as cheap as Munton's! :slight_smile:
     
  19. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Ditto. Stouts and ipas ive had zero issues. Those two yeasts are my workhorses.
     
  20. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I should add that S04 has two attributes that I really like, especially if you are looking to turn a beer around fast. It's a fast fermenter and floccs hard as a rock.
     
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