Straight Line Capper~Update Read This!!

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Larry82052, Apr 26, 2017.

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  1. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    I got my Straight line Capper and I screwed it to the Bench and Tested it again Wing Style and measured a Crimpped Bottle Cap on the Wing Capper and One with Straight Line Here and The Straight Line Capper Crimped Bottle cap Tighter by .005 (thousandths) which was highly impressive,so I have no doubts as to why my wing capper wasn't doing the job.I mean .005 is a LOT when you consider I was getting several bottles that had no CARBONATION, I am so happy with this One!!!

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    #1 Larry82052, Apr 26, 2017
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Sounds like you are happy.

    I have never experienced any issues with losing carbonation using my wing capper. The secret is in the wrists!?!:astonished:

    Cheers!
     
    #2 JackHorzempa, Apr 26, 2017
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  3. Jaguar10301

    Jaguar10301 Crusader (423) Mar 1, 2010 Maine

    I never have either.... Oh well, glad it works!
     
    #3 Jaguar10301, Apr 26, 2017
  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Larry, where is the .005 inch difference being measured? That may be enough for co2 leakage if measured between the to lip of the bottle and the rubber bottom lip on the cap, but if you are measuring crimped diameter of each cap I am afraid that is not much of a difference in my eyes. If you really want a true measurement of how well those caps are pressed on I feel plastigauge would be your only true option.
     
    #4 SFACRKnight, Apr 26, 2017
  5. Larry82052

    Larry82052 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2017 Texas

    I measured them on the Ridges after pressed on,the difference between the two is .005 which from outside tells me that the Crimp on the inside is .005 thousandths TIGHTER than before,I mean if there is that much difference,the caps have to be tighter,,in fact the bottles of beer I still haven't got back and run thru the Straight line looks like the caps edges are flared out before re~crimping,I looked at a bottle of coke~A~Cola and it looks like my Caps now Very Sealed down and not flared out on edges but down.
     
    #5 Larry82052, Apr 26, 2017
  6. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    .005 what? Millimeters or inches? What kind of measuring device did you use? What is it's accuracy? I assume calipers should be sufficient for that but I'm not sure. I assume that you're used to fairly low tolerance measurements but people who aren't used to metrology don't understand repeatability and reproducibility.

    But even then... the edge of the ridges don't really matter. The seal is around the lip of the bottle and the edge of the cap goes below the lip. The part of the metal cap (and plastic oxygen seal) can be crimped on without the actual edge of the cap to have been curved under.

    I definitely have never experienced bottles losing carbonation and I've only ever used one of the wing cappers. Even my 7 year old barleywines were just fine.
    Some bottles allow the capper to make nice straight vertical edges while others are still a bit flared out... But there's never been a carbonation retention issue between either.
     
    #6 Roadkizzle, Apr 26, 2017
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Again, unless you use something like plastigauge to measure the actual point of contact, I do not think measuring the edge of the crimp matters. That isn't where the seal occurs.
     
    #7 SFACRKnight, Apr 26, 2017
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