Strawberry wheat base

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  1. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

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    Hey making a strawberry beer for my wife. Gonna secondary on 20lb of strawberrys after 10 days. She doesn't like hoppy or bitter beers. How is this basic plan mashed at 152.
    Also anyone have a suggestion for a dry yeast? I'm thinking Safale 05... if anyone knows a yeast that cares less about temp I'm all for it.
     
  2. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    The strawberry will dry your beer out, I would mash higher, and maybe up the ratio of wheat to base malt.
     
  3. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I agree with @SFACRKnight on the wheat malt percentage. I would not call it a wheat beer unless it had at least 40% wheat malt in the grist.
     
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  4. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I never called it a wheat beer but I can definitely up percentages of wheat. What would you recommend mashing at.

    Also I don't know if it matter but I do no sparge.
     
  5. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

  6. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I think people are just responding to the title that you gave to the thread. If you're not trying to make a wheat beer, then you can probably ignore the advice about dialing up the wheat.

    Speaking personally, I wouldn't make such a big beer in this situation. It sounds as though you're worried about fermentation temperature, and a lower-gravity beer will ameliorate that somewhat. I might also sub out the wheat and throw in some oats, plus maybe some crystal malt for sweetness.

    But that's just me, you should take the beer in whatever direction makes sense to you.
     
  7. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Wow I didn't realize I put that into my subject. Sorry. I made a strawberry beer with a wheat base a couple years ago but lost the recipe. It was very good and I guess that's why I posted that. I'm trying to improve the recipe but maybe I'll just search for a highly rated one on BeerSmith. I just like to make my own recipes....
     
  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

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    I think this is gonna be my final alteration. Mashed at 154. Anyone have a suggestion for a yeast?
     
  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Belle saison yeast. And maybe use Belma hops instead, all late to get the IBUs that you want and hopefully a little strawberry aroma/flavor comes through as well
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I would not use late hops, strawberry flavor is slight, I would be afraid of losing that berry flavor. mash temp looks good with the addition of oats.
     
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I like the idea of a light crystal malt for sweetness and body. One thing to consider is that the fruit will add water content to your beer. It might be clever to try to account for this in some way. google water content of strawberry to inform adjustments
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Raspberries do the same thing. Between the extra water and sugar I had a wit that has a medium body turn into a no bodied fruit bomb. I think the oats and a higher mash should counter that while the higher gravity should counter the water addition.
     
  13. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Belle saison is really gonna dry it out cause of how low it attenuates. Also looking for
    To be clear, my wife's favorite beer is Samuel smiths strawberry beer
     
  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Looks like they use concentrates and extracts, wheat, and two different yeast strains. If that's your intention is to clone that beer, you're probably way off the mark at this point. Without the extract I believe you won't get the same in-your-face strawberry flavor, regardless of how much strawberry you add.
     
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  15. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Are you going to freeze the strawberries before putting them in the beer? I've had good results with 1 lb per gallon when freezing the fruits for a few days.
     
  16. epk

    epk Pundit (849) Jun 10, 2008 New Jersey

    This is a method if sanitation, yes? I've never actually tried it.

    OP, don't forget some rice hulls with that much wheat in your updated recipe. Good insurance if nothing else.
     
  17. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Won't sanitize it but it will break down the cell walls which makes it easier to transfer flavor. If you're adding the fruit to the secondary the PH of the beer and alcohol in the beer make for a poor environment for bacteria so the risk of infection is small.
     
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  18. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I have a raspberry and a cherry sour that seem overdiluted by the fruit water content
     
  19. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I'm late on this one, sorry. #1 I'd say that the wheat is not an issue if you're talking about making a fruit beer for your wife, and in general it will up the "beer" flavor and thus I'd personally take it down. #2, I'd also not up the mash temp to get more malty sweetness out of it, I'd rather... #3, drop the IBUs to 9-12. #4, I prefer a strawberry puree - specifically Oregon Fruit - because it's aseptic, the flavor is concentrated/consistent, and you have at least a specific range of sugar and gravity that it will fall within. Strawberry itself is difficult to work with because all of the flavor is actually right on the skin. That white flesh inside has no flavor. Everyone has made a good point about freezing, excess water, etc. I'll also note that although it may seem like cheating, extracts can work really well. As a professional even though I was working with real fruit, I'd add a tiny bit of extract to take it up a notch without going into "artificial" territory. The one drawback is that it takes seemingly forever for that pulp to drop out, and if you filter it'll clog it right up unless you've given it extended aging.
     
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