Stronger then ABV would suggest?

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  1. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    What beers do you find hit harder then their report ABV would suggest? I don't know why, but for some reason Deviant Dales hits me a lot harder then other 8% beers that I have had (yes I know it comes in a bigger can, but I have also had it on draft in the same size serving as a St. Bernardus and I swear the Deviant Dales hit me harder). Even the regular Dale's seems to pack more of a wallop then 6.5% ABV.
     
  2. robconoclast

    robconoclast Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2012 Ohio

    Two Commodore Perrys and I'm done.
     
  3. andylipp

    andylipp Savant (1,063) Dec 8, 2006 Massachusetts

    I'm no scientist, but if the ABV is accurate then this is impossible. Your experience likely has more to do with the contents of your stomach, your activity level, how fast you drink it, etc.
     
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  4. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    You may be no scientist, but you sound like a doctor.
     
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  5. jaybags

    jaybags Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012 Michigan

    creationism> science or any so called doctors



    haha
     
  6. robconoclast

    robconoclast Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2012 Ohio

    A restaurant manager at the brewery where I work made the mistake of stating she doesn't believe in science....despite the fact that beer is a biological process.
     
  7. bsp77

    bsp77 Pooh-Bah (2,185) Apr 27, 2008 Minnesota
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    Well, it is a 7.5% IPA, and being an IPA (not a double), you probably drink it faster than most 7%+ beers. There, that's your answer!
     
  8. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    What does that even mean, "I don't believe in science"?

    To the OP, I've never experienced a beer that was more intoxicating than the ABV would suggest. Beers of the same ABV may "hit me" harder if I haven't eaten or am dehyrated, but ABV is ABV.
     
  9. robinsmv

    robinsmv Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2010 Florida

    I realize that my level of hydration, how much sleep I have gotten, etc can change the effects of the alcohol. I have had these beers on numerous occasions and they always seem to effect me more then other beers. Does anyone know the margin of error that is allowed in labeling or if there could be other compounds in these beers that increase the effects of the alcohol?
     
  10. andylipp

    andylipp Savant (1,063) Dec 8, 2006 Massachusetts

    It means this thread went off the rails in a hurry. :confused:
     
  11. andylipp

    andylipp Savant (1,063) Dec 8, 2006 Massachusetts

    I believe the margin of error allowed is .25%, which does not seem like enough to make a difference.
     
  12. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Fantome Saison

    Cheers!
     
  13. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    A bit more than that - § 7.71 Alcoholic content. (3) (c) Tolerances. (1) For malt beverages containing 0.5 percent or more alcohol by volume, a tolerance of 0.3 percent will be permitted, either above or below the stated percentage of alcohol.

    But isn't the "loophole" that in most cases for most types of beers the US Feds don't test?

    Wasn't there a mini-scandal a few years back when DFH exported some of their high ABV beers (120 or WWS) to Canada, where the Ontario LCBO does physically test and the beers came back with a lower ABV than that listed on the US labels (or was it just as listed on DFH's website? I don't think many of the current DFH labels list ABV anymore.)
     
  14. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Gotta love that Ontario thoroughness.
     
  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    I have had Heady Topper hit me pretty hard, but it could be a variety of factors.
     
  16. dbc5

    dbc5 Savant (1,117) Jun 18, 2009 Arizona

    The mind and its expectations are powerful things.
     
  17. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Don't forget that comparing two beers the +/- 0.3 could be on opposite sides of the tolerance and they also could be listed at slightly different ABV, which when reading don't appear to be that different. For example say you have two beers, one at 7.1 and one at 7.5 ABV. Say the 7.1 true reading is 6.8 on the low tolerance side and the 7.5 true reading is 7.8 on the high tolerance side, for a difference of 1.0 ABV. So what looks like only a 0.4 ABV difference by label is really 1.0 ABV. Therefore, I think the argument can be made that some beers "hit hard" because of a conglomeration of extremes of tolerance and having label differences that appear to be negligible, however truly do contribute to the tolerance stack up (any one feel like doing some GD&T?).
     
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  18. robconoclast

    robconoclast Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2012 Ohio

    I was making a jab at creationism, which I probaly shouldn't have as I probaly shouldn't make jabs at religious or political beliefs...although when having a beer at a pub they always comeup.
     
  19. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Boulevard Pilsner at 4.8% ... for some reason I feel like it's 8%. I get waxed on a sixer of that stuff, it doesn't make sense.
     
  20. jaybags

    jaybags Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012 Michigan


    joe boo likes this post. sorry for the slight derailment.
     
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