Sugary Cereal in the mash?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by BearBrewing, Jul 4, 2018.

  1. BearBrewing

    BearBrewing Initiate (63) Jun 10, 2017 Massachusetts

    I've seen the idea floated around before and was wondering what peoples results have been. I want to have it as the focus of my grain bill and then add some minute rice and Marris otter as well.
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,748) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The basic brewing endeavors with Frankenberry and Count Chocula are available on the YouTube, if that's what you mean. Minute rice, Maris otter, + sugary cereal is sort of cryptic. What's your objective?
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Crusader (713) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Minute Rice or brown Minute Rice work well as mash adjuncts, but many sugary cereals have too many preservatives and miscellaneous compounds to make it into my grist...and if mostly sugar, there's no need to mash it...just put it in the boil if you must.
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,463) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Some cereals do have a lot of sugar, but they're not mostly sugar, though a few top 50%. The #1 ingredient is usually something like corn flour or whole grain corn. I wouldn't put those unconverted starches into the boil. OTOH, I probably wouldn't use breakfast cereal in a beer anyway.
     
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  5. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Aspirant (246) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    There is a competition between my homebrew club and another club in the area to see who can make the best beer with 15% mash to be breakfast cereal. I’m thinking about throwing my hat in the ring with Cinnamon Toast Crunch stout but that seems to easy.
     
  6. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (97) Jan 10, 2018 California

    If I had to pick it would definitely be Colon Blow....(google it)
     
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  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,748) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    That probably requires an extended mash time.
     
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  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Disciple (387) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont

    I'd use a non sugary cereal like

    Shredded wheat
    Oats
    Possibly grape nuts, but I do not know its breakdown.

    You could lable the beer as heart healthy, hahahahahahha
     
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  9. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (843) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    This idea is right up there with adding marijuana to your beer, except, in this case, there is no redeeming quality.
     
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  10. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Disciple (387) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont

    go jesus
     
  11. Lukass

    Lukass Savant (917) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio

    Count chocula or lucky charms could be good candidates as well!
     
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Crusader (713) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Neither would I...I'd do a quick steep at KO to get the sugar and flavor compounds...if I were to go this route at all.
     
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  13. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Crusader (795) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    IIRC, the main ingredient in Grape Nuts is...malted barley.
     
  14. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Disciple (387) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont

    Thanks, did not know.
     
  15. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Crusader (795) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    Years ago, when I worked at the homebrew shop, we did a ‘brew a beer without brewing ingredients’ challenge for fun. Just stuff from the supermarket. The winning bee was a gruit made from flaked adjuncts and 75% grape nuts and bread yeast.
     
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  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Champion (843) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    I think we all used to stalk the aisles looking for "unique" things to put in our beers. I've used pretzels in my mash, so I probably shouldn't be giving people TOO much shit for thinking about using cereal.
     
  17. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Initiate (96) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    A guy in my hombrew club made a Cinnamon Toast Crunch beer that was stupid good. Stupid because no one thought it would actually be good....
     
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  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,463) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    How would you extract the sugar and flavor without extracting the starches?
     
  19. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Crusader (713) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    With a quick steep? ... assuming the starch will take longer to extract (less soluble)?
     
  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Meyvn (1,463) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Hmmm...I'm now trying to picture this hard lattice of starch material with sugar and flavory stuff sitting loosely in the nooks and crannies, just waiting to be rinsed away.

    Actually I agree that the starches are probably less soluble than the sugars, but maybe not any less suspendable. But I guess there's one way to find out.
     
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  21. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,381) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I know a guy who has made a Lucky Charms Stout for St. Patrick’s Day, and it worked better than I thought.
     
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  22. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Devotee (493) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    No. I’ve done it. It sucked.

    There are so many preservatives and un-beer-friendly ingredients in those sugary cereals.

    Chalk this one up to “it sounds like it should be a good idea, but isn’t.”
     
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  23. The-Adjunct-Hippie

    The-Adjunct-Hippie Poo-Bah (3,378) May 12, 2014 Nebraska
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    Peanut Butter cereal (Cap'n Crunch, the new Nutter Butter stuff, PB Cheerios) works really great in nutty/PB/PBJ ales.

    It works.
     
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  24. wasatchback

    wasatchback Aspirant (266) Jan 12, 2014 Utah

    I’d potentialy look at the organic versions of these cereals... or simply google the ingredients in Cinnamon Toast Crunch