Summit unchained 21: us and them aka more Saga!!!

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  1. mothman

    mothman Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,016) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    So much saga in this! Thank you summit! Too bad this won't be $1 a bottle.

    Us & Them IPA
    A two-thread brewing experience.

    Brewer Gabe Smoley’s Unchained 21: Us & Them is a truly unique craft beer exploration. Gabe has deconstructed the mash of Summit's popular Sága IPA recipe into two unique “threads” to forge two distinct beers: a hoppy and intense American IPA and a complex, but subtle Session IPA. This unique brewing experience explores the two extreme flavor profiles and drinking differences you can discover in one package from one, original beer recipe. Which beer do you think is “Us” and which beer is “Them”? Which brew defines you? Offered in 6 packs that include three bottles of each brew. Also available on draught.
     
    #1 mothman, Feb 17, 2016
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  2. architects

    architects Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2011 Minnesota

    It's only fitting that @mothman is posting.
     
    #2 architects, Feb 17, 2016
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  3. nograz

    nograz Maven (1,424) Oct 30, 2013 Minnesota
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    I would just mix them.
     
    #3 nograz, Feb 17, 2016
  4. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Sporty's must be told!
     
    #4 Chaz, Feb 17, 2016
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  5. JakeJohnson

    JakeJohnson Pundit (897) Jan 30, 2015 Minnesota
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    I can see past their marketing ploy. They're trying to sell us a 3 pack of Saga for the price of a 6 pack.
     
    #5 JakeJohnson, Feb 17, 2016
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  6. Mplsmetro57

    Mplsmetro57 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2013 Minnesota

    More importantly, when is the 30th Anniversary DIPA being released? :grinning:
     
    #6 Mplsmetro57, Feb 17, 2016
  7. jakemn91

    jakemn91 Pooh-Bah (2,172) Jun 14, 2013 New Mexico
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    I think I read that it'll be out in Early March. Excited for that one too!
     
    #7 jakemn91, Feb 17, 2016
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  8. Boat

    Boat Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Minnesota

    #8 Boat, Feb 17, 2016
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  9. JMN44

    JMN44 Pundit (809) Sep 19, 2013 Minnesota

    Also the Summit 30th Anniversary lineup:
    Double IPA - March
    Keller Pils - Late spring
    West-London Style Ale - Late summer
    Barleywine - 2016 Holidays
     
    #9 JMN44, Feb 17, 2016
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  10. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    12-pack cans are also coming soon.
     
    #10 Chaz, Feb 17, 2016
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  11. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I've now tried both of the Us & Them "threads". (Thing 1 and Thing 2).

    Thing 1 is the better of the two, a very nice piney/resiny west coast IPA.

    Thing 2 is good "for a session IPA", and really good for a 4% ABV IPA. Reasonable malt presence even with the low ABV.
     
    #11 MNAle, Feb 29, 2016
  12. mothman

    mothman Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,016) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    I liked the ipa. The session wasn't my thing.
     
    #12 mothman, Feb 29, 2016
  13. Boat

    Boat Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2014 Minnesota

    I tried both "things" as well. Felt the IPA was decent but not something I would purchase again. I'd rather have regular Saga.

    Didn't care for the Session Ale at all but that really didn't surprise me since I've only had one Session PA/IPA that I've actually enjoyed and that was Give-Way by Stillwater Artisanal...that beer really surprised me.

    I'm still looking forward to the 30th Anniversary Double Saga...I mean IPA...
     
    #13 Boat, Feb 29, 2016
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  14. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Not being a regular Sága drinker (it's probably been a couple of years, at least, for a total for maybe 2 six packs ever), I can't compare Thing 1 to Sága, but it was pretty good. However, I probably would not purchase it regularly if it was in their regular lineup, because I'm not a big IPA drinker. If I want a hoppy beer from Summit, I'll go for the Hopvale.

    As to Thing 2, "Session IPAs" are tricky to get right, and even more so when they are "true" session strength (4%, not pushing 5%). I might buy Thing 2 as a summer seasonal since it is considerably more complex than its ABV might suggest, and it is really hard to find good local beers at ~4% since Surly first destroyed and then killed Bitter Brewer.
     
    #14 MNAle, Feb 29, 2016
  15. BrettHead

    BrettHead Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    Give-Way is amazing stuff. Wow. :grinning:
     
    #15 BrettHead, Mar 1, 2016
  16. jsdavis422

    jsdavis422 Zealot (627) May 15, 2012 Minnesota

    oh my lord, why on earth did it take so long for 12 pack cans?
     
    #16 jsdavis422, Mar 1, 2016
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  17. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    What can I expect this beer to be like?
     
    #17 Ri0, Mar 2, 2016
  18. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    What does this have to do with Saga?
     
    #18 joelwlcx, Mar 2, 2016
  19. nograz

    nograz Maven (1,424) Oct 30, 2013 Minnesota
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    These were created by splitting the grain bill for saga to create 2 different beers.
     
    #19 nograz, Mar 2, 2016
  20. Douggo

    Douggo Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2009 Minnesota

    Also, Saga needs no context.
     
    #20 Douggo, Mar 2, 2016
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