Summit

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  1. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Thinking about adding Summit to the hops in my backyard, but want to avoid at all costs the garlic/onion, and get all the citrus from them. Any tips on how to do this? Is it all based on when you add it to the beer (boil time, steep temp, dry hops, etc.) or is it growing conditions?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Harvest earlier. They get more oniony the longer they sit on the bines.

    If they still end up oniony, using them as bittering hops should minimize any flavor contributions. IIRC the only varietals of hops I've picked up discernable flavors from when using as a 90 min or FWH addition have been Summit, Apollo and Citra.
     
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  3. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    Unfortunately, Summit is a protected hop, like Citra, Simcoe, ect. You will not be able to buy these rhizomes. If you do sneak into a hop farm and dig up some rhizomes of these varieties, I will pay gladly pay for the shipping :grinning: .
     
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Summit was released last year for sale to the public. I have a buddy who has it and am getting a rhizome from him.
     
  5. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Yep Summit are available as of last year, but only through a few outlets. And, I think they went fast.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Stan Hieronymus said that Summitis on the way out due to poor agronomics. If it is being pulled out, that explains the availability.
     
  7. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    It is my understanding that Summits were released on accident by willamettevalleyhops.com last year. The patent runs on Summit runs until 2027.

    Here is a message to a couple of the guys who scored Summit Rhizomes on Homebrewtalk.com


    Re: Summit™ Hop Rhizomes

    Greetings from The American Dwarf Hop Association (ADHA)

    As the owner of the Summit™ Hop patent, we at the ADHA frequently monitor Internet discussions that are centered on Summit™ Hops, whether it be questions on availability, brewing practices and of course any action that maybe detrimental to the longevity of our intellectual property.

    The ADHA Hop Breeding program, to date, has generated one new cultivar for use in the public hop programs. This single cultivar (Summit™) required many years of plant crosses, germination of more than 200,000 seeds and evaluation of disease and pest resistance on all just to get a single new cultivar. The manpower, greenhouses, lab time and land prep has cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    There are two ways to recoup expenses to help defer the cost of providing new varieties to the Brewing Community. The most common method is to keep tight control of rhizomes, grant access to no others, have a single point of entry to the market and charge the highest price the market will absorb. Or you can do as the ADHA has chosen, that is to provide rhizomes to Hop Growers and Processor Agreements to reputable Merchants via a license mechanism. We believe that the Grower/Processor method is in the best interest of the Brewing Community ….Greater availability and the lowest sustainable cost.

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/summit-rhizomes-162543/index11.html

    I can see from your current HomeBrewTalk.com thread that each of you are aware that you have been put in harms way by a Hop Merchant who has no legal access to Summit™ Rhizomes. This Merchant knowingly delivered to you patented plant materials without considering the effects of the legal ramifications of possessing these plant materials.

    We have exhausted attempts to reach a mutually acceptable resolution with the Merchant in question but at this time the next steps are in the hands of our Legal Council.

    At this time we are asking for your assistance in limiting the damages to our program by returning all Summit™ rhizomes to the ADHA. We are aware that you to have a financial investment for which shipping costs and replacement rhizomes (free trade/no patented plants) should be made available to those who choose to help.

    Please feel free to contact me directly
    Leslie Roy
    Managing Partner ADHA
    [email protected]
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That thread explains that.
     
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