Super Quick Beer Turnaround Questions

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  1. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    I am trying to brew a blonde ale for a homebrew competition and am starting very late on it. I can't brew it until this Monday (April 2) as I am taking the day off of work. The beer needs to be turned in for the competition on April 13th.
    Here is what I am thinking: I have a yeast starter already going, so hopefully fermentation will start quickly. I am using Wyeast 1098, which is a very fast fermenter, but needs to be fermented low for a blonde - for a estimated og of 1.046 beer. Plan is to brew Monday, hopefully reach terminal gravity by Friday/Saturday and cold crash until Sunday night. Keg beer beer Sunday night, force carb and bottle off of keg Thursday night in order to turn in beer on Friday morning.
    Two questions: 1) will adding 4 ounces of table sugar help with a quick fermentation? 2) is this timeline look decent enough to give it a shot?
     
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  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    1) Doubtful . . . the sugar will start and finish very quickly, but those little yeast buggers still need to chomp down on the longer-chain carbs. It could make it more difficult for the yeast to adapt to their environment. If they binge-out on the simple sugars your attenuation may suffer.

    2) Tricky at best. The key to a fast fermentation is to have a low OG (you've got that) and a high pitch count, if anything pitch more than you need.

    A couple of suggestions: If you are ever going to use yeast nutrient, now's the time. Pitch lots of active yeast and don't be afraid to raise the temp on about day 3'ish. I would skip the cold crash step, just keep it warm until it goes into keg. If you have multiple kegs then rack a gallon (or even a half-gallon) into a separate keg. Chill and set normal carb'ing pressure and it'll be fully carbed in 24 hours (cold crashing at the same time). This can give you an extra couple of days in primary. Offer penance for neglecting your priorities for brewing.
     
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  3. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I don't keg, so I can't comment on that aspect of the timeline, but actually it seems reasonable otherwise. For a low gravity beer like that, I usually find that final gravity is reached within a couple of days, which gives the yeast several days to clean up. You've got a starter going, which is helpful. I would expect this to work out fine.

    Edited to add: here is an article you might find helpful.
     
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  4. Push_the_limits

    Push_the_limits Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2018 Antarctica

    Much of what has been said will be helpful.

    Get the 1.046 OG, pitch at a high temp, like 75-80 degrees, and allow to "cool" on its own. Definitely over-pitch with a good bit of nutrient. If you can, get a huge starter going because you want fast start. Keep fermentation at the upper end of the desired temperature range to speed up the process and to get some more complex flavors. On the last night before the competition, rack it off the yeast.

    As late as possible the next morning (after cooling it way down if possible) rack it again into the keg, and drop the temperature to around 40 degrees, and carbonate it.

    The rest is up to the recipe. With such a young beer (no aging), I would aim for something very crisp and straight forward, and make sure to separate it from all yeast to clear it up.

    Good luck!
     
  5. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    I would think the longer you could have it at 32* the better especially for a light beer...

    002 is the fastest yeast I’ve ever used, hands down. As long as you pitch a little more and add more O2 than maybe normal you won’t get much diacetyl. I’ve never found 1098 to be overly fast especially if you ferment it cold (which you NEED to for a blonde ale), I would recommend sub 64* for a clean profile.
     
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  6. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    funny enough, the beer I am brewing is for their homebrew competition!
     
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  7. Mohican88

    Mohican88 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Ohio

    With a tight turnaround like this, I'd recommend gelatin either in the primary during the cold crash and carefully rack off the clear beer or add it when you keg and plan to dump a couple pints of cloudy beer. It'll definitely improve the clarity and appearance, which may help your beer be crisper or be perceived as crisper/cleaner. Your plan and and beer choice to brew are solid.
     
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  8. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    1) No
    2) Yes
     
  9. djtothemoney

    djtothemoney Zealot (591) Nov 30, 2015 Ohio

    Worst case, just do it. I had a 0 IBU IPA (used US-05 for the yeast) ready to keg in one week. It's delicious.
     
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