Super sweet cream stout critique?

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  1. tronester

    tronester Pooh-Bah (1,653) Nov 25, 2006 Oklahoma
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    I want to brew a beer that is somewhat similar to Southern Tier's Creme Brulee. The idea intrigues me, even though I have never actually had it!

    I came up with this recipe: http://hopville.com/recipe/678947/sweet-stout-recipes/diabeetus

    It isnt nearly as high alcohol as Creme Brulee is. However, I would just like to brew a quite sweet stout that is tasty.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Do you keg? You can always arrest the fermentation with some potassium metabisulfite and then force carb it when you deem it sweet enough but not too sweet.

    Commercial beers that are sweet must have a high FG. I don't see a beer with an FG of 1.012 ever coming off as sweet. If Dark Lord is around 1.060, then Creme Brulee must be at least 1.030 FG.
     
  3. tronester

    tronester Pooh-Bah (1,653) Nov 25, 2006 Oklahoma
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    Unfortunately I bottle condition. If you look at the final gravity on the hopville calculator it actually comes up to be 1.022 though.

    I am using a full pound of lactose in the beer, PLUS two pounds of 120l crystal malt. And this is only a 3 gallon batch.
     
  4. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Uh...You have a stout with no roast? or chocolate?

    Add a half pound of chocolate, plus a half of roast. Since your doing this all grain why not just make a reasonable recipe, and mash real high and use a less attenuative yeast? Mash at 158, use a bunch of flaked barley, and ferment with 1728 for a lower attenuation. Here what I would start with-

    70% maris otter
    10% english medium crystal
    10% flaked barley
    5% roast
    5% chocolate
    1/2lb of lactose in 3 gallons

    Mash at 158F, ferment with 1728

    It will be sweet, but with a thick body to hold up the flavor and feel maltier than just sugar sweet.

    Just my two cents.
     
  5. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Basic comments on your recipe...
    1) Since its a stout, you might want to add some roasted grains to it :slight_smile: e.g. Pale Chocolate, Chocolate, Coffee, Black Patent, etc.
    2) Replace your American 2-row pale with Marris Otter or a more flavorful base malt
    3) Up your lactose to 1.25 or 1.5 lbs (Per 5 gallong batch) EDIT: Saw yours is for 3 gal...
    4) Ferment with a yeast like London Ale III that will leave more residual sugar in the beer (Lower Attenuation) than US-05, which will chug through your wort.
    5) You could carmelize some sugar and add some vanilla beans, since creme brulee has a very strong carmelized sugar and vanilla heavy flavor to me
     
  6. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Vanilla will help. I just thought of this but I would carbonate on the low side to help out the mouthfeel.
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I like the idea of vanilla. This will play nice with the lactose, and will SOOO improve the mouthfeel with a velvet quality.

    It's going to be difficult to capture that charred caramel flavor that you get with creme brulee. Blowtorch the wort!
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Or perhaps boil the bejeezus out of some first runnings.
     
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