Supplication 1/16/15 issues

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  1. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Ok, So I am a huge fan of this beer. I have only had the pleasure of enjoying the Gem a few times. The first time i had this beer I was completely amazed and mind blown by it. I recently had a got a bottle from a friend that has a West Coast connection. The bottle was dated 1/16/15. I decided to drink this bottle with my Girlfriend who also really enjoys sours (wilds). We both took a couple sips, the beer tasted nothing like it did the first time I had it. Kinda had like a band aid/ Plastic taste. Just seemed completely off to me. Wasnt to bad that I couldn't finish mine and hers. But has anyone else came across this also with Supplication?
     
    #1 SteveSexton203, Jun 15, 2015
  2. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Never but I don't have any bottles that are that new.
     
    #2 Preluderl, Jun 15, 2015
  3. GamehendgeBrewingCo

    GamehendgeBrewingCo Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2015 Massachusetts

    #3 GamehendgeBrewingCo, Jun 15, 2015
  4. basics

    basics Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Could be skunked, especially if it was shipped across the country in warm weather.
     
    #4 basics, Jun 15, 2015
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Hmm, that is a phenol off flavor. Looked through the BA reviews and didn't see any mention of that. I have tasted that in a couple of beers from Ohio's Rivertown Brewing most recently, and it was awful.
     
    #5 cavedave, Jun 15, 2015
  6. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Skunking is caused by being lightstruck not by change in temperature.

    Change in temperature doesn't normally affect beer unless it freezes it or causes it to stay hot for long periods. It will cause it to stale, and that also doesn't produce phenolic flavors like OP described.

    Everyone should bookmark this link

    guide to off flavors
     
    #6 cavedave, Jun 15, 2015
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  7. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Well shit. Have 3 cellaring and believe one of them just might be that date.

    Time will tell once I get around to popping it.
     
    #7 RBassSFHOPit2ME, Jun 15, 2015
  8. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    Not only this but I stopped shilling out for RR sours (with exception being Beat) because like many other co's BA programs, reuse of the same barrels seems to really mute out the oak and other complexities. I just taste a lot of base beer in Consecration and Supplication with a lot less funk and oak. Just not worth the price for me when a whole lot of other breweries are dipping into wilds.
     
    #8 putonyourwalkingshoes, Jun 15, 2015
  9. xanok

    xanok Savant (1,085) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut

    That's not how skunking works....
     
    #9 xanok, Jun 15, 2015
  10. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    Phenolic flavors are common and expected when fermentation comes from many Belgian strains and from some wild yeast strains. I'm quite sensitive to phenolic flavors and sometimes avoid beers that feature them. Ive noticed that sours, beers partially fermented using bacteria, often mask or remove phenolic flavors. Its possible that your Supplication is overly phenolic, but perhaps you have a batch that hasn't fully "soured".
     
    #10 WickedSluggy, Jun 15, 2015
  11. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Note to self: Stop drinking beer out of an old Band-Aid tin.
     
    #11 slander, Jun 15, 2015
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  12. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    Had a few bottles from that batch - no issues here.
     
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  13. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    I love RR and Still love supplicatin and this incident isnt going to stop me from drinking another. Thank you for all your input.

    Check back after you pop one of yours. I have another bottle that im sitting on from same date and will check back here as well.
     
    #13 SteveSexton203, Jun 16, 2015
  14. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Upon further inspection, my bottles are all from 9/24/2014.

    Sorry.
     
    #14 RBassSFHOPit2ME, Jun 16, 2015
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  15. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2011 California

    I got the same thing, granted I had just bit my tongue and fixed it by putting a band-aid on it. Live and learn I suppose.
     
    #15 skunkpuddle, Jun 16, 2015
  16. PatKorn

    PatKorn Pundit (971) Aug 30, 2007 Hawaii

    So they were shipped to you? Did you let them sit for a week or two or drink right away?
     
    #16 PatKorn, Jun 16, 2015
  17. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    So you tasted the same thing?

    Yes, they were shipped to me. From California to Connecticut. They did sit for more than the day they came in living room. They sat for another 4 days at the most in there cellar, that is not overly warm or cold.
     
    #17 SteveSexton203, Jun 16, 2015
  18. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
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    I've had probably a half dozen from that batch and traded a few. Never had any issues and none of the people I've traded to have had any complaints.
     
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