Support the USPS Shipping Equity Act

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  1. mlm61

    mlm61 Crusader (468) Jun 16, 2016 Connecticut
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    If you want great beer in your mailbox, let them know.

    Take Action: https://p2a.co/xsQKtCV

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    Did you know that the United States Postal Service (USPS) is not allowed to ship alcohol? Because of archaic laws, the USPS cannot deliver your favorite brew to your home – even in states where it is legal for private carriers to do so.

    Good news: Key members of Congress, alcohol beverage producers, and postal unions are trying to fix this.

    Earlier this year, legislators introduced the USPS Shipping Equity Act, which would allow the U.S. Postal Service to mail beverage alcohol products directly from licensed producers – including breweries, distilleries wineries and cideries – to legal-drinking-age consumers in states that allow direct-to-consumer alcohol shipping (DTC).

    This legislation would have a far-reaching effect on your local craft breweries! Letting the USPS ship beverage alcohol products would allow for increased competition and make it easier for beer lovers in rural areas not served by private mail carriers to enjoy great craft beer.

    https://www.craftbeer.com/news/usps-shipping-equity-act

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  2. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    In a statement, the American Postal Workers Union said it supports the expansion of the agency’s services to include alcohol delivery:

    “Allowing the USPS to ship beer and wine is a common-sense step that allows customers better access to this growing trend … There’s no good reason why beer and wine couldn’t be included with other mail and packages.”


    Translation: "Look, we already know it is being done. We are pretty positive that there aren't that many artisanal bbq sauce producers nor horse semen sample collectors out there. So lets just remove this old law so that we too can have that piece of the pie that fedex and ups are currently taking big bites of."
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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  4. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    While we are at it stop the subsidy going to Chinese shippers.

    Enjoy
     
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  5. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. As @PapaGoose03 said ... "Done"! :+1:
     
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  6. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    I never shipped horse semen or BBQ Sauce but i have shipped tons of homemade Small Batch Olive Oil and Hot Sauce
     
  7. MadMadMike

    MadMadMike Grand Pooh-Bah (3,465) Dec 11, 2020 France
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    Yep. “Dear Gov. DeSantis”.,.
     
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  8. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    There is a chance I might have shipped a crapload of stuff labeled bbq sauce or horse semen But regardless, let's just say "done"
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Sure, I want great beer in my mailbox (well, I'd prefer it in the beer fridge. My mail carrier will usually leave bigger packages in my garage and it's only a few more feet to the beer fridge in the mud room...).

    But I don't want to pay 50% more for the beer and then pay the postal shipping charges that will come close to doubling my final per can price. So, I'll continue to buy the locally available beer, conveniently picked up at a local liquor store with a broad selection, the ability to see packaging dates and "self-ship" it to my home in my own vehicle.
     
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  10. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    It'll cost a fortune in shipping charges & probably be broken and abused, but what the Hell, why not?
    Some places may offer free shipping if over a certain amount? Maybe?
    Nothing like having your case of hundred dollar beer sitting in the sun on your porch until you come home.
    There are so many ancient alcohol laws that need reformed, especially in Pa. That would require those lazy sunz-a-bitches actually getting off their over paid arses & doing their jobs though.
    Drink local.
     
  11. ilikebeer03

    ilikebeer03 Pooh-Bah (2,616) Oct 17, 2012 Texas
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    I have often shipped "yeast samples."

    I need to know - has anyone actually claimed that their package contained horse semen?
     
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  12. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I don't order hundreds of dollars worth of beer from retailers. I do, however, take part in BIFS and periodically swap boxes of beers with friends in other regions, so I fully support USPS joining the post-prohibition world.
     
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  13. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    I've shipped "unfiltered apple cider" from central Washington orchards.
     
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  14. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    this is to allow breweries and businesses to ship alcohol. A lot of other carriers allow it in various states. But it’s never legal for a consumer to ship alcohol to consumer. Just too many laws around alcohol to allow that. Most carriers require an adult signature on delivery to ensure beer isn’t being delivered to minors.
     
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  15. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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  16. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,462) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Just wondering out loud...

    I wonder if USPS will require you to state whether its Alcohol you ship and if that will come with an alcohol tax , cuz we all know uncle sam loves doing that.
    I understand that this is more for brewers and i love that this is happening . For me as a person, knowing that asshats at UPS and FedEx have been known to steal beer and deliver empyty bottles i will never stop shipping my Homemade Olive Oil .
    Hope this passes cuz small brewers have enough shit do deal with as it is competitively.
     
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  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Large flat rate box is $22, 2-3 days anywhere in the USPS system, and holds 16 16oz cans. It's the most economical way of shipping beer. Medium FR box is $16 and holds 12x12oz cans. So sources tell me.
     
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I know a guy whose business is selling horse and bull semen, and he always uses Fedex overnight. The stuff has to be shipped with dry ice. stuff is expensive, and he makes a very nice living.
     
  19. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    there are businesses that will pack and ship alcohol for you though. in my area neither of them will currently do beer, only wine. i wonder if this will change their policy?
     
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  20. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    ideally yes. Wine has a lot less shipping restrictions than anything else. Until recently UPS never allowed beer to be shipped. Now they do but still with restrictions of course. The hardest thing about shipping alcohol across state lines is each state has their own laws. A reason some companies don’t think it’s worth the hassle and or training. The shipper has to know the laws and restrictions for each state. In CA I think that’s why so many just do interstate shipping.
     
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