Tasting beer as it warms.

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by GSS, Oct 22, 2015.

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  1. GSS

    GSS Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2015 China

    A couple months back I was in a bar and ordered a bottle of imperial stout. Having been there before I assumed it would be served to cold, which it was. Instead of taking my usual approach and just letting it sit for an unspecified period, I became more methodical. I sampled it immediately and then every five minutes for thirty minutes. To notice the beer change and open up over this period was interesting. Perhaps if people who served imperial stouts tried this experiment, they would stop being served to cold in the first place.

    I don't know about others here, but I never waste fridge space with stouts. I drink them right off the shelf every time.
     
  2. nicholasofcusa

    nicholasofcusa Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2006 Florida

    I like to see how the taste changes as it warms, so I prefer it out of the fridge. Even with a pretty much ideal basement, temperature-wise (which is where I store beer not in the fridge), beer straight from the cellar is usually a bit too warm for me.
     
  3. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    Temperature affects all things especially things with flavor. Beer, food, coffee. You want them all to be at the optimal temperature (closer to body temperature) so the full flavor is highlighted. We often ask our distributors to bring their wine in at room temp to help pick out the flaws. Wines served cold will often be masking some flaw or issue, same with beer. Try drinking your coffee at 100F instead of 200F, it will amaze you. Cheers!
     
  4. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    My beer fridge downstairs is set to 50 degrees. Works out great.
     
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  5. laketang

    laketang Grand Pooh-Bah (3,017) Mar 22, 2015 Arizona
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    50 to 55 degrees works for me
     
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  6. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I'd imagine that it's not worth the hassle nor the cost for most bars to cool various beers to various temperatures. Just throwing them all in the same temp environment and letting the beer geeks deal with it is probably much easier and cheaper.
     
  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Most all beers except very low ABV varieties taste better 50+ degrees IMO. Beers with high IBUs (stouts or IPAs etc), taste more bitter at cold temps, and smooth out and become sweeter when warm. Funky wilds/Belgians, as they warm up the barnyard funk smell and taste frequently becomes enhanced vs. cold where they are muted. Just my findings. Warmer is better most of the time.
     
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  8. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Honestly they can put all the BMC's at the ice cold temps and nearly anything craft at 50degrees and it will be better the majority of the time for most beer styles.
     
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  9. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    "There are three intolerable things in life - cold coffee, lukewarm champagne, and overexcited women."
    -- Orson Welles​
     
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  10. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Ive never had a cellar or room temp stout. I like stouts cold actually. But this thread inspired me to now try a stout cool instead of cold. Actually excited to try.

    Just a question though. I heard milk stout will spoil if not kept cold is that true and also, if a stout has vanilla added should it also be kept colder?
     
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  11. AdmiralOzone

    AdmiralOzone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,352) Jun 26, 2014 Minnesota
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    I have a small fridge downstairs for beers as well. I have it set all the way "warm" that it will go and it stays at 48 degrees.
    Works super.
     
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  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Sure, for you and I and many on this website. However, I would imagine that many people that purchase craft regularly still prefer their beer to be a good bit colder than 50 degrees. It may indeed be better at 50, but that doesn't mean people will demand it to be at 50. Additionally, I bet having two cooler systems, one for the yellow-fizzy stuff that's at like 35 degrees and another for all the craft stuff at 50, would be very costly and complicated.

    There's a spot in RI that has a huge digital sign above the bar, like a shot clock in a basketball game, that displays the temp of the cooler that all the kegs are in. It's usually just a tenth or two degrees over freezing. This same bar will have stuff like Mayflower Porter and Weinstephaner Original on draft. Everything is served in frosted glasses too. No one else besides me seems to be bothered by any of this, so I don't see the bar changing any time soon.
     
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  13. putonyourwalkingshoes

    putonyourwalkingshoes Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jul 31, 2013 California
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    Well my friend from what we Americans know of China I'm sure you have very little space in your apartment/house/etc. fridge let alone your entire dwelling.
     
  14. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    Welles was talented but not too bright.
     
  15. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    :grinning:
     
  16. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    So we should drink beer at 98.6 degrees?
     
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  17. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    I didn't say body temp, I did say closer to it though. For me around cellar temp 58F for most wine and beer slightly cooler. But to each his own, experiment and try out different temps and find what works best for you.
     
  18. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    It is expensive, but it has such a cool name.
    Flux Capacitor
     
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  19. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    It was joke. I have heard stories of red wine drinker having their wine heated up to around 85/90 degrees however.
     
  20. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    Of course you and I know it was a joke but there are some that may not see the humor in things so, I clarified. Its all good.
     
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