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  1. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    Ok. I normally kept my fermenter I'm my basement. It's stays around 68 for the most part. The temp outside dropped witch caused the fernice the work harder and the basement temp to rise. To about 78. I did catch the temp change not not for a few days. I've moved the fermenter to better temp now. My question is will me brew still be ok? Is was in that temp for about 4 days.
     
  2. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    What was the recipe? Specifically, what yeast? How long had the beer been in the fermenter before the temp rise?
     
  3. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    After active fermentation is over, I would regard that kind of temperature change as no big deal. But during active fermentation (typically the first 2-3 days after pitching the yeast), that would be too warm for many strains of yeast, so you could get some off flavors if it occurred during that time.
     
  4. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana


    I didn't catch the exact day that the temperature jumped but it was unfortunately within the first few days.
    I would guess it had likely just happened yesterday which was the day I noticed as my basement normally stays pretty cool and the temperature had just dropped outside
     
  5. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    What are you making? Which yeast did you use?
     
  6. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    A stout and the yeast was Safbrew t58
     
  7. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Don´t worry , it will be fine. T58 can ferment pretty well at that temp, it is on the higher edge though. It is most likely you will need to age this beer a bit longer. I would not use this yeast for a stout.
     
  8. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana


    Ok thanks. Also why wouldn't you use that yeast? Sorry I'm new to this and it's my first time playing around.
     
  9. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    It is a yeast better suitable for belgian beers, very spicy,estery, aromatic ,it produces some peppery notes I don´t find nice for a stout but it is always a matter of preferences. If you like to use dry yeast I would advise you to use S-04 , Windsor(less attenuative), Nottingham, Coopers, Muntons and S-05.
     
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  10. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana


    Ok. Thanks again. I was starting to panic. I guess we'll see how it turns out. I would think ( at least with my taste buds) that would make a pretty good beer. But like I said it was my first time playing around.
     
  11. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina


    Be patient ,after fermentation is completed let this beer age at cold temp (38F) for 45 days to let it mature and diminish some high alcohol produced during the high fermentation temp.It will be just fine.
     
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  12. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    I assume you mean aging I'm the bottle?
     
  13. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Nope, before bottling.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have any concern that the ale yeast cells will 'drop out' after 45 days of cold conditioning? Will there be sufficient yeast cells for bottle conditioning?

    Cheers!
     
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  15. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    I was curious of this as well. Maybe doing a 2nd fermentation?
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have something specific in mind here?

    FWIW, bottle conditioning is a 2nd fermentation.

    Cheers!
     
  17. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    Sorry. Meant meant when you transfer the beer into another fermenter for a longer time. I've read some will do that to get the beer out of the crud on the bottom of the 1st tank. I would think leaving it sit in there would give it a bad flavor. But again I'm new and trying to gather as much info as I can
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I personally use the term "secondary" for what you are discussing here. In the past it used to be 'conventional wisdom' to transfer beer from the primary fermentor (plastic bucket, carboy,...) to another vessel (e.g., a carboy) which I term as the "secondary" vessel. I have been homebrewing for over 20 years and I have never conducted this transfer for ales. There are times where it could be argued that it makes sense to conduct a secondary; some example:
    • Long term aging like for sour beers
    • When you add fruit to a beer; in this case it could be stated that a secondary fermentation occurs because of the sugars from the fruit
    • Other long term aging reasons - for example aging on oak cubes/chips/spirals
    I do conduct a secondary when I brew my lagers.

    I am not a fan of conducting a secondary for a typical ale since there are some risks with the transfer:
    • Potential for infection if sanitary practice is not pristine
    • You are exposing the finished beer to air (oxygen) and therefore 'more' oxidation
    I personally do not see the benefit of you using a secondary here. In my opinion you could conduct longer term aging in the bottle (presuming that longer term aging is required for this batch).

    Since you used a Belgian Ale yeast strain for the batch it is entirely possible that the higher fermentation will not produce off flavors. Having stated that, using a Belgian Ale yeast strain will result in esters (fruity flavors) and possibly phenols (spicy flavors) that would not classically exist in a Stout. I suppose you could brand this batch as a Belgian Stout?

    Please report back on how this beer turned out and whether you enjoy the 'Belgiany' character.

    Cheers!
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have never brewed with T-58 so I just visited the Fermentis website to read the datasheet for this yeast strain:

    “Specialty yeast selected for its estery somewhat peppery and spicy flavor development. Yeast with a good sedimentation: forms no clumps but a powdery haze when resuspended in the beer.

    Fermentation temperature: 12-25°C (53.6-77°F) ideally 15-20°C (59-68°F)”

    http://www.fermentis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SFBT58.pdf

    Yup, you should expect a fair bit of esters and phenols in this batch of Stout. Maybe that will be a ‘good thing’?

    Cheers!
     
  20. Thejester61886

    Thejester61886 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2017 Indiana

    So in your personal opinion. I should be good for a standard 2 week (ish) fermentation then move on the bottling with no issues? Possibly let them condition in the bottles a little longer?
     
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