That "Homebrew Taste"

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by JUNCK, Mar 23, 2013.

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  1. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    It seems when I make a beer that is "ready to drink" in 4 weeks like a Pale or an IPA there seems to be a taste that is only in home brew. Maybe people describe it as the beer being "green"?

    I think the answer here is this taste goes away as the beer matures. Anyone know what I am trying to describe?
     
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  2. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    All grain or extract?
     
  3. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    There's that, and I think that off-flavors created by high/inconsistent fermentation temperatures also frequently contribute to the "homebrew taste."
     
  4. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    All grain.
     
  5. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    I used 1056 on the beer I am referring to and it fermented at 68 degrees which I think some here would agree is the "perfect" temp for that yeast. I was very anal about keeping it at 68 for the duration of fermentation. You think that could still be it?
     
  6. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I associate the "Homebrewed Taste" with under attenuated (under pitching, bad mashing procedures, etc.), yeasty (still in suspension), green beer (underpitching, too little time in bottle, fermentation temperature issues, etc.).

    Extract twang is very unlikely unless you're using very old, improperly stored extract.
     
  7. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Oh no, I wasn't referring specifically to your beer...just homebrewers in general and the generic "homebrew taste" label. My first beer fermented high, and the reaction by everybody was "hmm, homebrew taste." But yes, barfdiggs' description also seems to fit the bill in general. Don't know enough about your beer.
     
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  8. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    I agree with JS above. Most likely a fermentation issue. Do you have a way to consistently control your fermentation temperature? Are you pitching enough yeast? How long are you leaving the beer in primary and at what temps? What temp are you pitching at?
     
  9. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    How do you know your temp is 68? Are you measuring ambient air temp or the temp of the beer?
     
  10. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    Yes I have a way to control ferm temp. I made a yeast starter so I am assuming I pitched enough yeast. The beer was done fermenting after 5 days and I left the beer in primary for 10 more days after that and dry hopped for 3 days. Stayed at 68 and pitched at 68.
     
  11. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    Temp of the beer according to the fermentometer.
     
  12. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    How long since bottling?
     
  13. Jettanbass9

    Jettanbass9 Zealot (653) Sep 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Quality of hops and health of yeast are often the cause of this flavor. The 'Green' flavor is a very general term. Green as in grassy? or, Green as in apple-like?

    Old, improperly stored or hops picked out of season/too early can give the beer a grassy flavor. Some hops just have that characteristic.

    Unhealthy yeast or under pitching can often cause acetaldehyde a by product of fermentation that is usually reabsorbed by the yeast, post fermentation. If the yeast is unhealthy or under pitched, the yeast may drop out of solution or stop working and will not reabsorb this compound.

    How were the hops stored? Did you make a starter?
     
  14. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    Only two weeks and a day.
     
  15. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    I bought them from my LHBS packaged by Hopunion. Yes I did make a starter, I always do.
     
  16. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Try another one in a week. I mean, yeah, you mentioned in your initial post that some flavors seem to clear up with a little time. I guess what you're identifying is indeed just the beer being "green." I kind of hate that term because it seems so unspecific. If your hops were fresh, yeast healthy, ferm temps good, etc...then yeah, let them condition a little more. I'm always amazed at how much a beer can change in a short time.
     
  17. SUBER

    SUBER Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013 California

    Do you use a oxygen?
    Do you crash cool your beer?
    Yeah, it takes acouple more days but it improves the quality of the taste imo by alot.
    I crash cool for about a week, @ 35 deg, and I bottle and keg
    I use 1056 at 64-65 in a temp controlled conical...1056 is such a clean yeast at that temp...
     
  18. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    At two weeks and a day I'm assuming the beer has been kept warm for carbonation and you are tasting one that you had in the fridge for a few hours maybe a day. I'm always amazed at the change in flavor after the beer has had a week or more to cold condition.
     
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  19. JUNCK

    JUNCK Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Washington

    I think that's it, thanks!
     
  20. Jettanbass9

    Jettanbass9 Zealot (653) Sep 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Sounds like you just need to let the beer mature. As other have posted, give it another week or so. Storing the beer in a slightly warmer area than room temp may help with any yeast activity. Otherwise, patience is the only other thing it needs.
     
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