The Alchemist (2019)

Discussion in 'New England' started by Sheppard, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. ManapuaMan

    ManapuaMan Meyvn (1,390) Apr 3, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Oh wow: ISO!

     
  2. trsC

    trsC Initiate (66) May 5, 2013 Spain

    Yeah this is when the calendar helps out, I think.

    I hope.

    Great video though. I liked the extra swirl or two.
     
  3. LukieBL

    LukieBL Initiate (111) Jun 10, 2015 Massachusetts

    Awesome stuff
     
  4. Holderness

    Holderness Meyvn (1,060) Aug 22, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Hello all, just wanted to let folks know that Heady and Focal are now getting distribution to the Brattleboro Food Co-op on Thursdays, 3 4pk/person limit on each, $14.99 per 4pk. I believe this is the farthest south they are currently distributing regularly!
     
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  5. purephase

    purephase Initiate (136) Feb 23, 2008 Connecticut
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    I noticed today that a store in San Diego that gets Heady is actually advertising the hops:


    I'm curious if this info actually came from The Alchemist. I'm a bit skeptical given the description as a northeast IPA when Kimmich has said he doesn't particularly care for the style and because it seems kind of random to reveal the hops after all this time. I'd also be pretty surprised if it didn't include Simcoe.
     
  6. robo55

    robo55 Initiate (59) Oct 29, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Also, citra is absolutely not used in Heady. Kimmich has stated such.
     
  7. papposilenus

    papposilenus Meyvn (1,206) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire

    The old product description said that it was a proprietary blend of six hops. The only hop he specifically admits to is, in fact, Simcoe...

    “This isn’t some magic formula,” he says, though Heady’s exact composition is of course a secret. John will reveal that Heady is made with British barley and American hops, and that the beer is a tribute to the hop variety Simcoe in particular.
     
  8. wasatchback

    wasatchback Disciple (330) Jan 12, 2014 Bahamas
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    He’s said there is Amarillo in there as well
     
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  9. EDNOSE

    EDNOSE Aspirant (224) Oct 27, 2007 Connecticut

    Was going to say the same thing.
     
  10. JonnyJuicebox

    JonnyJuicebox Initiate (148) Jun 3, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Is San Diego getting shipments of Heady Topper legally? As a Bostonian, my heart is broken.
     
  11. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (84) May 4, 2017 California
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    Yes. We've gotten maybe 3 different drops of topper, focal banger, and crusher over the last six months. Bottle shops and my local dive bar have gotten cans, of course with no dated cans. I really don't understand why breweries don't date stamp cans, really frustrating from a consumer point of view.
     
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  12. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,084) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    Yeah, it's terrible. I remember when Commonwealth first sent cans up to MA, Big Papi didn't have dates. I was like "is this really how you want to enter a market?" Nobody wants their market to be treated like a dumping ground. At least I don't.
     
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  13. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (84) May 4, 2017 California
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    Yep socal is a dumping ground for toppling goliath, maine brew co, and lord hobo among others. Getting cans already a month old does not bode well with a town that has 160+ breweries (san diego) and it shows as the cans just sit on shelves.
     
  14. marcrgrenier

    marcrgrenier Initiate (66) Apr 22, 2015 New Hampshire
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    Out of curiosity, what are they charging per 4 pack or can?
     
  15. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (84) May 4, 2017 California
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    usually $5.5-6.50 a can. 4 pack around $22. Lucked out and my local bar was serving up cans for 6. Had my fill and they were definitely fresh, fortunately!
     
  16. marcrgrenier

    marcrgrenier Initiate (66) Apr 22, 2015 New Hampshire
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    Cans for $6 is cheaper than VT at bars, I think I usually see it at $8/can. I paid $15.99 in southern VT for a 4 pack a few weekends ago.
     
  17. Capt_Quint

    Capt_Quint Initiate (131) May 29, 2015 Massachusetts

    With those prices I think you need to look around a bit more.
     
  18. cmoney13

    cmoney13 Initiate (133) Sep 9, 2017 Massachusetts

    Kimmich is anti-can dating and to some extent I see his point. He stands by the beer at any age and wants to avoid the date hunters and playing into the hype. And doesn't the Alchemist can condition Heady for some weeks before releasing? Thought I read that somewhere.
     
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  19. EDNOSE

    EDNOSE Aspirant (224) Oct 27, 2007 Connecticut

    I would agree that Heady stands up better than any hop intense IPA I am aware of. Fresh is preferred but Heady is still solid 6+ months out. I don't think Crusher and Focal hold up as well (personally).
     
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  20. jamshard2mash

    jamshard2mash Initiate (84) May 4, 2017 California
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    Regardless of quality of beer, it deteriorates with time and that statement is a cop out
     
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  21. papposilenus

    papposilenus Meyvn (1,206) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire

    Personally, I prefer six month-old Heady to fresh. (Just don't drink the bottom of the can). It goes crystal clear and smooth as glass and drinks like a dream.

    I'm pretty sure that I remember that Focal started out as the same base beer but that Mr. Kimmich substituted Citra and Mosaic (for the above-referenced six-unknown-American-hops-but-including-Simcoe-and-Amarillo). Focal starts to fall off significantly for me after about a month or so.

    Go figure. The more I know, the less I understand.
     
  22. LukieBL

    LukieBL Initiate (111) Jun 10, 2015 Massachusetts

    I totally prefer HT to have some time on it. It’s become a bit too intense for my taste over the past few years

    My folks have a basement fridge set at just above freezing and I keep a stash of assorted beers there for emergency purposes. I had a heady last night for the first time in a while that was at least 4-5 months old.
    Poured bright and hazy after I rolled the can a bit and was superb. Zero chunkies.

    I’ve had this experience consistently, it’s probably the most consistent IPA of its ilk
     
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  23. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Meyvn (1,163) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    The point of not needing can dates makes sense to me when your footprint is an Uber small pocket of Northwestern Vermont. Makes less sense the farther out you go.

    That said, 3 one-off drops of heady topper hardly sounds like a dumping ground for old product. My guess is they just made some connections out there and wanted to do something fun.
     
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  24. DanPing

    DanPing Aspirant (248) May 30, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Some new beers on the rise!

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  25. ajthegreat

    ajthegreat Initiate (155) Nov 11, 2010 Vermont

    I had the Squidgy Black on draft for Montbeerlier at Three Penny Taproom. It is absolute fire. One of the smoothest BA Impy Stouts I have had with ZERO trace of any alcohol whatsoever. Very dangerous stuff.
     
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  26. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,084) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    Excited to hear people's thoughts on this.
     
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  27. wasatchback

    wasatchback Disciple (330) Jan 12, 2014 Bahamas
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    Looks like it might be a regular offering too.
     
  28. jhavs

    jhavs Poo-Bah (1,791) Apr 16, 2015 New Hampshire
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    Has Rapture been for sale yet? I have not seen it on the website yet but may have missed it if it was only around for a few days.
     
  29. WolfsburgVW

    WolfsburgVW Disciple (302) May 21, 2013 Maine
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    It's being released on Thursday.
     
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  30. jhavs

    jhavs Poo-Bah (1,791) Apr 16, 2015 New Hampshire
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    Great, thanks. Been hoping they would release this one.
     
  31. oldbean

    oldbean Disciple (349) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Galaxy-citra IPA from The Alchemist. What's to think about?
     
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  32. Sheppard

    Sheppard Meyvn (1,084) Mar 16, 2013 Virginia
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    Maybe the only new IPA I'd ISO.
     
  33. ajthegreat

    ajthegreat Initiate (155) Nov 11, 2010 Vermont

    Anyone get up to Stowe for Rapture yet? Pretty excited about this one.
     
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  34. ajthegreat

    ajthegreat Initiate (155) Nov 11, 2010 Vermont

    Answered my own question. Bangarang. Seek this one out.
     
  35. pgbond

    pgbond Initiate (75) Dec 3, 2014 Massachusetts

    So, @robNSB just posted this to his InstaStory
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  36. robo55

    robo55 Initiate (59) Oct 29, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Whoa! If I could get Heady at my local packie, that’s all I would ever drink.
     
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  37. bla211

    bla211 Initiate (111) Mar 17, 2015 New York

    Most likely the same deal as NY, bars/restaurants get cans fairly regularly; on-site only.
     
  38. Resuin

    Resuin Meyvn (1,282) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    Just got Pliny in MA, now maybe heady?? Nice.
     
  39. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Savant (976) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    PA permits off-site purchases, so there's potential for MA
     
  40. WoostaBia

    WoostaBia Zealot (502) May 24, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Where?