The Alchemist coming to CA

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by BreakingMyBalls, May 16, 2018.

  1. BreakingMyBalls

    BreakingMyBalls Initiate (68) Apr 27, 2017 California

    I've heard a couple reports from my LBS's that some Alchemist beers (Heady Topper and Focal Banger were mentioned) will be hitting distribution in CA this week. Pretty cool stuff.
     
  2. Brent212

    Brent212 Initiate (122) Jan 13, 2014 California

    Bummer they don't have dates on the cans.
     
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  3. IcyTrout

    IcyTrout Initiate (57) Feb 1, 2018 California

    Agree, it should be on the 4 pack carrier no? Also just an FYI the cost on these is $13.95 a pack so any place charging more than $20 is straight ripping you off.
     
  4. kdub15

    kdub15 Initiate (19) Dec 7, 2017 California
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    already seen a few spots get them already
     
  5. JayORear

    JayORear Savant (999) Feb 22, 2012 New York
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    They've never dated their cans. I'd be very surprised if they weren't fresh, though.

    EDIT: Even if they weren't, both Heady and Focal hold up extremely well. I've drunk dozens of each over months of receiving them.
     
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  6. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    I’ve never seen dates on their cans and hen I use to trade for them. That was 2+ years ago. Maybe they should date them cans?
     
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  7. JayORear

    JayORear Savant (999) Feb 22, 2012 New York
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    I think the point is that they just don't sit; not dating their cans isn't keeping anyone from buying them.

    How's HI?
     
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  8. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    On plane right now heading back.:sob:
     
  9. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    I had a few old cans when I traded. But the chance you take. That’s why I don’t trade anymore
     
  10. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Initiate (90) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
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    Good luck finding 4 packs for $14. Not gonna happen. You’re alternative is traveling to VT.
     
  11. Brent212

    Brent212 Initiate (122) Jan 13, 2014 California

    The only price I've seen was $23. But that place is always overpriced. Still would doubt they'll sell anywhere for less than $20. In SD, anyway.
     
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  12. Barchetta21

    Barchetta21 Initiate (91) Jun 30, 2009 California

    Pretty sure he’s letting us know that the wholesale price to retailers is $14, not that retail price should be.
     
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  13. SDReaper

    SDReaper Defender (614) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    Yeah, so far my usual spots are $19.99 - 20.99. I am guessing there are a few going higher, but there is a reason I don't purchase beer there anymore.
     
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  14. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Initiate (90) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
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    Pretty sure they are less than $13 at the brewery, might be more nowadays. My point is, once distributors and freight are part of the picture, the cost will increase for any beer (whether it’s the Alchemist or swill). It’s like saying $35 for a bottle of Fou is a rip off.
     
  15. Rbarnes4381

    Rbarnes4381 Initiate (137) Oct 29, 2013 California

    Would you pay $80 for Fou? I got a place for you then.
     
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  16. IcyTrout

    IcyTrout Initiate (57) Feb 1, 2018 California

    Did I say that was the retail cost? $13.95 is the price they were sold wholesale to the retailers.
     
  17. Barchetta21

    Barchetta21 Initiate (91) Jun 30, 2009 California

    I’m sure they are cheaper at the brewery, and I’m not claiming that retailers should be pricing the beer at their cost. I am, however, glad to know that the cost for retailers in CA is $14 so I can avoid what I’d consider egregious markups ($28, for instance).
     
  18. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Initiate (90) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
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    Now that is a rip off. Passed on it at APEX bar multiple times at that price point. Had I never tried it, maybe I’d splurge.
     
  19. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Initiate (90) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
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    You said $20 is a rip off. I don’t think you will see it more than a dollar or two cheaper than that in California. Meaning it’s what the market dictates. It’s all subjective anyway. If I am willing to spend $20 for a modern times 4 pack (which I do on the reg), paying the same for superior beer is a no brainer. If you aren’t, that’s cool too.
     
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  20. JayORear

    JayORear Savant (999) Feb 22, 2012 New York
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    Or trading and paying at least 2x cost in shipping. I’d pay $25 for a fresh 4-pack without blinking.
     
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  21. sethsticles

    sethsticles Initiate (96) May 6, 2014 California

    Last time I was out there it was $16 at the brewery. Have they dropped the price because of increased production? Even at $20 locally it's no different than buying MT, Mumford, HPB, etc.
     
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  22. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (775) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    No northern California. Sad.
     
  23. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    Haven’t had Crusher or Focal Banger yet but Heady was spot on when fresh. One of the best I had at the time. That was over 2 years ago. Worth $16/20/24 for a 4pk? Yes. Better than those mentioned above? Yes. Are there better IPA’s today other than HT? Yes. Before Heady there was the Elder and before Elder there was Blind Pig. Those 3 IPA’s and OG Nelson should be considered World Class beers.
     
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  24. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (775) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Heady Topper has always had that magical touch to it. Nothing else quite tastes the same.

    Now... all the murky stuff coming out of every other niche spot tastes verrrrrryyyyy similar. Not very unique.
     
  25. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    Yes. I prefer a good Head over the Haze anytime. Nothing wrong with a haze every now and then. But that head tops haze hands down. :wink:
     
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  26. J-loco

    J-loco Initiate (187) Jan 23, 2015 California

    But west is still best gunz?
     
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  27. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    Of course west is best. Nothing like them SoCal with a some Head once and a while. But how often do we get Head here?
     
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  28. OTB

    OTB Devotee (400) Sep 2, 2011 California


    Ummmmmm I dont know about you ................BUT

    Cheers,
     
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  29. Frosty11161

    Frosty11161 Initiate (194) May 2, 2016 California
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    Wait, are you talking about beer or something else?
     
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  30. dcgunman

    dcgunman Crusader (731) Jul 1, 2009 California

    :wink:
     
  31. Brent212

    Brent212 Initiate (122) Jan 13, 2014 California

    This claims they're canned on 5/7. If true, that's pretty damn fresh.

     
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  32. SDReaper

    SDReaper Defender (614) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    Jen said it was canned on the 7th in the LA/OC Bottleshop thread, so, yeah....pretty damn certain that is correct.
     
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  33. Lostmango

    Lostmango Initiate (129) Jun 29, 2013 California

     
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  34. thuey

    thuey Aspirant (204) Nov 13, 2015 California

    So it's after-the-fact but Heady Topper, Crusher, Focal Banger were all available via K&L Wines for a 4 minute period earlier today, so us NorCal folk could get in on the action. I was lucky enough to see it and maxed my allocation (2 Headys, 1 Crusher, 1 Focal), but within the next minute or two, those beers were sold out.
     
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  35. whiskey

    whiskey Disciple (309) Feb 25, 2012 California
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    Anyone had Crusher?
     
  36. BeersandBread

    BeersandBread Initiate (195) Jan 20, 2016 California
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    I did and maybe it was just my can BT it was full of disgusting floaties. We eat/drink with our eyes and this was so disgusting looking. Looked like dirty water. I didn’t enjoy the taste either. Really harsh west coast style IPA. I couldn’t finish it.
    Maybe it was just my can. But I’m happy I got one can.
    But I wonder if this is why they say to drink Heady from the can; so you don’t see how disgusting it looks?
     
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  37. Brent212

    Brent212 Initiate (122) Jan 13, 2014 California

    I had both Heady and Focal today and they looked fine. No floaties big enough to be noticeable, anyway.
     
  38. vince4953529

    vince4953529 Disciple (367) Sep 28, 2006 California

    Had the chance to visit their facility at Stowe, VT before. They sold out the Crusher in cans, I only lucked out with tiny tasters (they don't do full pours) of Crusher and I remembered tasting incredible. But Heady was so ubiquitous that you could order them by the cans at the Burlington airport.
     
  39. Izzy_Izumi

    Izzy_Izumi Initiate (57) Aug 3, 2017 California
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    Tried the three yesterday. ....Crusher was the only one I liked. I liked Focal Banger at some point, but, it just didn't do it for me any more.