The Bruery - Sucre

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by slevy221, Jul 14, 2014.

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  1. slevy221

    slevy221 Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2014 New Jersey

    Recently purchased Sucre. Spent a pretty penny on it and the wife isn't thrilled. Would like to drink it at the optimal time.

    Any recommendations on how long to brew this one?
     
  2. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    I assume you mean "how long to cellar this one?"

    Since this beer was just released this year, no one can really tell you how long to cellar Sucre. Most reviewers suggest it is drinking well right now with medium carbonation and not too boozy. Those two complaints are usually why I cellar a beer.

    Do you have a reason you want to cellar it, based on what other people have said about how it's drinking right now?
     
  3. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Pooh-Bah (2,057) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    For me, it's a toss up. I have been fortunate enough to have had a glass without opening mine and I can tell you that it is drinking fantastic! Bois was one, straight off the bat, you could tell needed some time in the cellar. The booze was overpowering and the flavors were a tad disjointed. This one, however, is a delight to drink. I'd say, if you have a special occasion, open it and enjoy. If you don't get around to opening it for a while, it's not going to hurt. Again, this is just my opinion. Enjoy!
     
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  4. birdman200

    birdman200 Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    Most of the reason I cellar beers is based on price and rarity, not necessarily because I want to see how it drinks after a couple years. For some beers (SN Big Foot, Stone IRS, etc), I'll buy a couple bottles to actually see what it's like in a couple years.

    If I had Sucre (I actually have a bottle of Bois I'm waiting to open), I'd save it for a special occasion.
     
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  5. wyatt

    wyatt Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2009 Louisiana

    I have had a number if different variants of sucre and they are drinking wonderfully. For all we know time will hurt this beer. Why wait.
     
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  6. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    It's incredible right now. Should hold up very well, but if it's your only one, drink it.
     
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  7. ezperkins2

    ezperkins2 Pundit (751) Jan 3, 2011 California
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    All of the Bruery Anniversary beers are the same recipe and include small amounts of previous batches thanks to the Solera Aging method. The 100% barrel aged versions (Cuir was the last year that offered a partial barrel aged version) all age fantastically. Last week I cracked a bottle of Fruet from two years ago and it was fantastic. Everyone's tastes are different but I feel that the two years really treated the bottle very well. If possible, you should convince a friend to purchase one and together you guys open one now and save the other for a few years and crack it open on a special occasion.

    When ever you decide to drink it you will be glad you dropped the cash on it. (At least I always am.)
     
  8. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    The optimal time is probably when the wife isn't around, since that silly wax is pretty recognizable.
     
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  9. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I really enjoy the bruery's anniversary old ales. However, having recently consumed several of the different BOIS barrel variations, I thought they were pretty heavily oxidized for only being in the bottle for a year. I think their solera method is reaching a point of diminishing returns (in prior years I dont recall tasting that much oxidation.)
     
  10. errantnight

    errantnight Pooh-Bah (2,015) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    I wouldn't be so sure that necessarily has much to do with the Solera method. The amount of retained beer is relatively small.
     
  11. howopeeps

    howopeeps Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2011 Ohio
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    Can any help me out and what is the wax color for each variant
     
  12. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I would welcome more input on this.
     
  13. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  14. Ruderaven52

    Ruderaven52 Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2013 California

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  15. errantnight

    errantnight Pooh-Bah (2,015) Jul 7, 2005 District of Columbia
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    I don't think the oxygen input from the Solera method of barrel aging will necessarily have contributed to your perception of advanced oxidation in year-old Bois, compared to it simply being a barrel aged beer that's sat for a year.

    I certainly could be wrong, but I'd think bottling / being in barrels / aging, generally would all contribute more significantly to advance oxidation (as you describe it) after a year. Whatever oxidative notes were introduced by the Solera method should be present, initially. I don't see why it would necessarily jump-start the aging process, as there's not necessarily any more oxygen present than in a traditional barrel aged beer.
     
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