The Calorie Conundrum

Don't be scared of lean beef either, listen to you inner-caveman. Good luck!

 

I don't get it. Is it what you eat or how much because you just said it was both in the same sentence.

Examples:
A tailor averages 2500 or so calories a day and a lumberjack about 5000 or so a day. You're telling me that it's just because lumberjacks are hungry people or is there a corrilation between how much they eat and how much they work. If the tailor started lumberjack work he's gonna want to eat back all of the energy he lost. That's what most low fat diets do. To be hungry and be more active. Eventually you body will recognize that your not getting back the energy you should have and so it makes you feel tired so that you don't use up more of your reserves.
Ex2:
What do the Inuit eat? The fattest animals out there. Whales, seals, etc. I don't see them eating oranges, apples, berries, grains. They can't. They seem to be fine to me.

People KNOW that sugar is bad but put in everything. Fruits good for you but it has tons of sugar. Sugar by any other name is still sugar. I'll post two videos to watch when I get home. At work now and for whatever reason we think it's a good idea to use IE 6 still.
I know beer isn't great to be drinking. But it's about the all carbs I'll have. I don't completely cut out carbs. I know that they're good to an extent but we eat soooo many today and still think that fat is the probably. Obviously fat is the problem since we're cutting it out and getting skinnier and theres no longer an epidemic...wait...

Not trying to be a jerk. Just my 2 cents.

 

I'm not really sure what your issue is with what I said. And if you think we're cutting out fat I don't know what you're talking about, because we aren't. But maybe this will clear up my point:

How much you eat dictates your weight. What you eat dictates your health. If you consume more calories than you burn, you're going to put on weight, and vice versa. But your body composition (% of body fat for instance) is dictated by what you're eating and when. For instance, if you eat carbs before and after a workout, those carbs help promote lean muscle growth (assuming you ingest protein as well). If you eat carbs at a time when your body does not need the energy, those carbs are broken down and stored as fat.

http://www.oneresult.com/articles/nutrition/benefits-lean-protein
http://www.oneresult.com/articles/low-carb/making-low-carb-diet-work-athletes
http://www.oneresult.com/articles/training/what-are-effects-alcohol-your-strength

Obviously those articles are geared more toward athletes, but they illustrate my point about how what you eat affects your body composition and overall health.

 

No issue. Sorry if I came off that way. And I know calories obviously has a part but it's not as simple as that. Like I've said before calories in/calories out is physics. The links you post reinforce that. The things you eat determine what happens to your body. Not how much you eat. All I'm saying is gainging fat is as much as a process as gaining muscle or anything else your body does. To think it's as simple as In Vs Out is naive.
It really doesn't matteranyway. The thread has kind of trailed off from where it began. Saying you want a light version for every/most beer is like saying I want a ferrari with the engine of a Chevy Cobalt. haha

Again sorry if I came off as a jerk with an issue. I'll have to check out those links too. Thanks!

 

we don't need craft light lagers, we need more craft malt liquor.

 

Hey man no problem. I agree with everything you just said. When it comes to weight it is as simple as in vs. out (there was a recent "experiment" someone did where they ate nothing but junk food and still lost weight because they consumed less calories than they were burning), but that doesn't mean you're going to be healthy. Like anything else, including craft beer, moderation is the safest and healthiest bet. If you don't go overboard, eat well, and exercise regularly, you aren't going to have a problem.

 

[For whatever reason, we have this bizarre sentiment in America that if it's on your plate, you absolutely must eat it and you're wasteful/ungrateful if you don't. It's stupid. If you're satisfied, why would you keep eating? Seems just as wasteful to shove unnecessary food in your mouth after you're already full as it would be to just throw it away.

Or better yet -- get a doggy bag and take it home for later.[/quote]

Oh shit, my mother was wrong? People aren't starving somewhere?

 

First and foremost, craft beer is not competing for the same customers as macro beers. If someone happens to come over from the dark side to craft beer, they are of course welcomed but I don't believe for a minute that craft brewers are in their offices or brewhouses thinking about how to directly compete with B, M or C. Not all companies want to dominate the market, some just want to sell the product they make and are happy with that. In addition, there are only a handful of craft brewers who have the financial resources to get into something unknown and untested, like light craft beer. And it may get to the point where craft breweries are just trying to survive, like mom and pop stores when Wal-Mart comes to town.

 

I doubt beer has any effect on obesity. It's the ice cream, chips, pizza, soda, hot pockets, bagels, cookies, and candy.

 

MAY wanna educate yourself then...

Calories are calories.

 

I actually laughed. Calories are not calories... Oddly enough. It's all about the context of calories. And beer is such an insignificant (spelling on iPad?) part of the obiesity problem, any regulation serves no purpose other than social control. Those "heart healthy whole grain breads" have a higher glycemic load than most beers, thus more fattening. Potatoes... Fruit... Pretty much every staple food nowadays has massive amounts of simple carbs and little nutrients. And beer, as popular As it is, contributes less calories per week than you'd be led to think.

Off topic: calories is a horrible way of representing food energy (a calorie is a unit used in steam engines... People/animals are not steam engines). It's better described as the rate of conversion of certain molecules to adenosine tri-phosphate.

 

...Alright, there is such a thing as "empty" calories. Some foods are more "productive" than others. But if you have 3000 calories a day of any food or drink without exercise, the results will show on your body.

 

easy to do when you're going from 270 to 235. Talk to us when you are trying to get from 200 to 175. Muuuuuuuch harder.

 

Why is it so fucking difficult for people to understand this?

 

Adam Jackson ran into this same problem during his craft cheese addiction.

I hear he's really into craft cigarettes now. That poor guy is gonna die young.

 

not trying to get to 175.

 

Got in late on this, but I have an easy solution to the calories in beer problem: If I don't work out, I don't get beer that day. May sound dumb, but its a good motivator. There may be nothing more refreshing than a citrusy IPA when you get home from the gym.

Under certain circumstances (vacation etc) this doesn't apply though...

 

If you're in a situation where you need to count calories, just rule out that whole upper digestive track, that's the bullshit system trying to extract nutrition in the first place: try butt chugging.

There is almost zero calories and you get super twisted. I have butt chugged Dark Lord and I felt that it tasted even better IMO

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ty-of-tennessee-pi-kappa-alpha_n_1913575.html

 

Fair enough, but my point is that at higher weights it's easy to say "well I drink all the beer I want and still lose weight." there are some people who need to lose weight and aren't starting at 270. Im sure if you continue to try and lose weight you'll get to that point where scratching off 10 lbs isn't as easy it was.