The Calorie Conundrum

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Hanzo, May 31, 2012.

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  1. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I asked for a doggie bag for my beer and the waitress just laughed.
     
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  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    America is a weird place, people buy super sized double bacon cheeseburger combos and order a diet coke...it's just the way people are.

    I just don't buy into craft ignoring the light beer drinking market just because they can't compete with the big boys.
     
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  3. BigCheese

    BigCheese Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    I wouldnt waste my money on craft light beer. On a friday or saturday, if I'm going out/partying/having fun I'll start with 2 or 3 craft beers that are higher in calories/money/taste. After that I usually switch to something cheaper with less taste (Highlife or Miller Lite) because at that point the cost/calories of a craft beer isnt worth it to me. Especially considering I'm buzzed, and dont really care as much what I'm drinking at that point.

    If i'm going to spring extra and buy a craft, I want it to be a legit good tasting beer. If budweiser or millercoors could produce an IPA (or porter stout) that was actually good and cheaper than craft I'd be the first to buy it.
     
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  4. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Exercising regularly makes calories less of a conundrum.
     
  5. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    So then it comes down to cost, would it not be possible for say Sierra Nevada to produce a six pack of light beer close to the price of BL? And if they could wouldn't you buy that as your "filler" beer? I know I would...
     
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  6. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Not sure why SA Light isn't craft in your view... it's as craft as anything out there. It's just exactly what happens to a beer when you take out the flavor (malt) to cut the calories down.

    As for the calories... there are 110 calories in a can of Bud Light. Anyone out there who is actually concerned about those extra 12 calories is a lost cause and not worth going after. We're seriously talking about a packet of ketchup difference now...
     
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  7. TWStandley

    TWStandley Pooh-Bah (2,166) Jan 15, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Couldn't agree more. Society has become so fixated on counting calories when we really should be focused on living more active lives. If you exercise regularly and eat moderately healthy, you should not be concerned with how many calories are in your beers.
     
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  8. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    I'm not willing to sacrifice good beer for a low calorie beer plain and simple. I just get too much enjoyment out of drinking good beer. That being said, I understand the calories need to be cut elsewhere, whereas I usually skip the cheese on sandwhiches, drink a lot more shakes as meals these days, slim to never use much dressings or condiments, and stay away from white breads and pastas. Every little bit counts...and I also exercise regularly. Beer is a BIG motivator for all I described here.
     
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  9. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Sure, if they started using corn, and then it would taste like every other crappy macro out there.

    Not really sure where you're trying to go with this...
     
  10. thagr81us

    thagr81us Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 South Carolina

    Brew more Berliner Weisses... /thread
     
  11. Gosox8787

    Gosox8787 Maven (1,254) Jan 24, 2009 New Hampshire

    Good, more quality beer for me. I don't think the craft market is suffering all that much currently. The demand seems to way outweigh the supply, so more demand is just going to make everything harder to get. Bottomline is that more people are choosing craft now than ever and it doesn't bother than some people aren't because of the calories in craft beer.
     
  12. BrewDoctor

    BrewDoctor Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2003 Connecticut

    You have a point about introducing non-macro light beers, but the inherent problem still rests with the consumers of these products. The general consumer of macro lights is not going to consider a 'Dogfish Light Headed' or some other unrecognizable concoction from an unknown brewery. The act of drinking a Bud Light is simple, comfortable, and refreshing to them. We are the ones who venture outside the norm and seek flavor and balance. However, I doubt the market within the craft beer consumer base is enough to keep a light beer on the green side of profit. Sam and even Sierra can accomplish a light beer offering, but the more regional and local brewers would struggle with sales.
     
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  13. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Sam Adams is pretty big, I am sure the guidelines for craft keep expanding but I don't know how they'd be considered in the same category as other craft brewers. But that's beside the point, I'll give you that one beer as an example of light craft. Any idea how well it sells?
     
  14. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    It sells quite well. But there are tons of light craft beers out there. They just don't say 'light' on the label. Seriously - anything in the 3.5-4% range is a light beer. Here is an entire local brewery (Notch) that does nothing but "light" beers:
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22723
     
  15. neophilus

    neophilus Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2009 Massachusetts

    What BMC does to make their beers so light in calories strips the flavor and taste from the beer. Even if a craft brewery went through the same process they'd have to end up with a BMC Lite clone to even come close to the same calories. At that point, what's the point?

    In the end I think you are up against the marketing budget and not the actual calorie count. Mass produced light lagers are just trying to one-up each other with calorie count because they can use it as a marketing gimmick. They are fighting for the same market share of people that are going to buy a BMC Lite either way, its just a matter of what color can or bottle it comes in.
     
  16. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    And maybe that is it, maybe it is impossible to brew a good tasting 100 calorie beer....
     
  17. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Be more active. Drink what you want. I may have 3 or 4 or 6 craft beers on a Friday night, but i'm up at sunrise Saturday hiking, climbing, riding, swimming or something good for my body. I know what your saying about the untapped market but I had to rant...people are effin lazy. I think the biggest problem is what was mentioned above about taste, and I'm no nutritionist but I'm sure it's not easy making a low cal beer that will have the qualities desired by the craft community.
     
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  18. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    There's been a huge rise in session beers in MA over the last year. Lots of 3-4% flavorful beers on the market. The only problem is that they are usually the same price as a normal beer so I skip them. It really feeds into the theory of whether or not we'd drink craft beer as much if it didn't have alcohol.
     
  19. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I understand what you are saying, BUT, the calories are rarely on craft beers that I have seen and without saying Light on the label your average light beer drinker is going to pass on by.
     
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