The Calorie Conundrum

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Hanzo, May 31, 2012.

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  1. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Sorry, not to keep beating a dead horse, but this light craft beer was never for "us". It was for those masses of people that bought into the light beer scene...I wanted them to see other options while they perused over the 60 different kinds of BMC light offerings, as pointed out some craft makers already make light beer, I just rarely see them in my area outside of Yuengling Light and Sam Adams Light.
     
  2. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'm on a beer diet per say, and I've drastically altered my eating habits, working with a nutritionist. I need to lose weight after going wild on Alpine and Pliny at XMAS time. I drink primarily 64 or Miller Lite, maybe 2 a night. I supplement with a KBS or a Foothills BA Porter, Two Hearted ale maybe twice a week and limit is one a sitting. That 64 scratches the itch and I sip on it, is it great? No, but it's with a purpose. I'm losing weight and saving some money without depriving myself entirely. Beach week in July will be a blow out, then I'll be good again. Depends on the person, in my 20's I could drink two cases a week and not gain weight, in my 50's I gain weight, my knees are bad etc. Bigfoot has over 300 calories as an example. I wouldn't really be interested in Craft light, if I'm going for good beer I want the best I can get.
     
  3. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Assuming you could get a craft light beer for around the same price as the Miller 64 or Miller Lite you wouldn't?
     
  4. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I think any good craft brewer that puts out quality products has stated that they like to make beer that they like to drink (Stone in particular) and they aren't brewing for the masses so I don't think they have any ambition yet to make a beer that will be mass marketed for the diet friendly people.
     
  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I guess that might depend. I would assume the craft would be far superior to 64, but drinking say a Prima Pils light would be disappointing compared to Prima Pils. And it would cost more. If I'm going to drink crap beer I'd just as soon stick to the 64 which I don't expect much of except to trick my brain into thinking I'm still drinking a beer. I think it would be tough to keep in the quality and taste by cutting anything. Mainly your cutting the sugars and carbs and the alcohol. hard to imaging say a 100 calorie Prima at 3.5% ABV that would seem worthwhile.
     
  6. lakestclairgoose

    lakestclairgoose Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2008 Michigan

    forget "light" beer, and forget these high ABV beers.... 8%??? 9%??? 10%++++ who needs it... the craft beer industry should concentrate on making and marketing a non-alcoholic version of a belgian tripple that tastes the same.... that is what craft beer drinkers want!!!!
     
  7. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    You should really try 21st Ammendment's Bitter American if you can. It's ~4.4 ABV, so the calories should be on the lower side, but it's got plenty of flavor. It's a far cry from the american light lager. "The Other Beer Site" estimates the calories at 132, which I grant is twice that of an MGD64, but it makes up for it in flavor. If you're drinking 2 Miller Lites or MDG64 a night, one Bitter American would equal be calorie-wise and I bet it would scratch your beer [and hops] itch much better.

    Yards Brawler is worth a look as well. It's light on calories and ABV too and has way more flavor than any macro amerian light lager.
     
  8. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

    If I were concerned about caloric intake, I'd probably just shy away from drinking Mephistopheles at 1:30am like I did last night. Just drink less beer if you're concerned, and exercise more. Simple.

    Fortunately I'm already so huge I've given up, so I can drink what I like.
     
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  9. iwantsomerocks

    iwantsomerocks Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Massachusetts

    I just don't think his point on this specific issue has merit (as well as many others), yet he continued to repetitively drill the argument. Thus my comment on him being ignorant. I readily agree with many other points he has made on other forums. To call someone close-minded is a similar type of statement. Way to crawl down to my level.
     
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  10. iwantsomerocks

    iwantsomerocks Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Massachusetts

    That's Mr. Rogers giving little kids the finger on the air. It's amazing on so many levels.:wink:
     
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  11. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Oh, dear God, no.

    The calories aren't the problem. It's the lite beer drinkers that worry me.
     
  12. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Mar 29, 2010 American Samoa
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    have a few shots of moonshine before starting on the beer.
     
  13. milkbaby9

    milkbaby9 Crusader (491) Jul 28, 2010 Florida

    Doesn't the average lite beer drinker feel like their lite beer tastes pretty close to the non-lite version? It seems like the gap between lite beer to the non-lite version is much smaller than the gap from popular mass consumed beers/bmc to most craft beers.

    I don't think the lite beer market is truly a demographic that is interested in tastier beers.

    To me personally, I treat beers like soda and rarely drink more than one a day. I really enjoy all types of beer and have a huge beer cellar backlog, but I believe in healthy moderation and enjoying the beer that I do drink to the fullest!
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Maybe for now this may be true, but who knows. Right now if you want flavor you need a balance of hops and malt, increase the hops you need to increase the malt to balance it out, and up go the ABV/carbs/calories. Hell even a regular Martini with something like Beefeaters is probably over 300 calories, if you use a 3oz pour. One sight I looked up had all the info on all beers and liquors and Beefeaters was 114 calories by the ounce. So for now I'll live on 64, and supplement 3-4 times a week with a craft brew (1) of some type, and I'm fine with that for now. On special occasions like vacations , fuck it. I'll drink what I want, it's a marathon not a sprint.
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You should read autoextremest.com and you would see what a Porchephile thinks of the Cayanne and the "Buttster".
     
  16. brianthelion23

    brianthelion23 Initiate (0) May 21, 2012 California

    light craft beer could be great if taken on by the craft beer world. im not going to argue with anyone or change my mind. just my thoughts and 2 cents. if they want to do it and it taste good i'll drink it.
     
  17. wingedeel

    wingedeel Savant (1,190) Nov 17, 2005 Indiana
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    As someone who is nearing retirement age, I most certainly have started paying attention to calories. Some of those high ABV bombers have well over 1000 calories per. As many have stated, I have started drinking more of the lower ABV craft beers. Not "Lite" beers,simply lower ABV. They are easy to find,particularly in the summer. Many are very good and flavorful . Never tried Sam Adams Light, probably would appeal to craft beer drinkers more if it was called Sam Adams Mild. Or if it was barrel aged.....
     
  18. rlcoffey

    rlcoffey Savant (1,207) Apr 20, 2004 Kentucky

    There is one example I thought of along the lines of what Hanzo proposed. Lexington Brewing Company makes a decent Kolsch. But its name is "Kentucky Ale Light".

    To be honest, I avoided it at first. I would have tried it sooner if it had been named "Kentucky Kolsch" instead. That is why few do what he suggests, it drives away their core market -- the craft drinker. Does it more than make up for that by bringing in the light beer drinker?

    No idea, although they are growing (according to the Brewers Association, they were the largest microbrewery in 2011 -- the closest to 15k barrels without going over). I dont know the breakdown between KY Ale, KY Ale Light, and their Bourbon Barrel Stout.
     
  19. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Ok, came across this at Total Wine when I was about to grab some Yuengling Light for a birthday party I am attending tonight, haven't seen it on shelves here before. From the reviews it sounds like I may have found my light beer winner.

    Cisco's Sankaty Light

    Anyone had this before? It was $9.99/6pk for cans, so I dropped $20 on a 12pk so it certainly doesn't fit into the price category Bud Light drinkers would be interested in, but I blame that more on Cisco.
     
  20. Brunite

    Brunite Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2009 Illinois

    The guy that wrote this is an idiot. Can't even get his facts straight. The only PA GI makes is Green Line which is only available in IL and has an ABV of 5%. I assume he is referring to their IPA which weighs in at 5.9%. Point is; this guys research sucks. If he does not know, or did not take the time to research the difference between a PA and an IPA.......what he has to say is highly suspect throughout.
     
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