The New Pale Ale

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  1. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    A bright, balanced wheat beer could be a good idea. something in the same mold as Modern Times Fortunate Islands. Or else a well made Pilsner, like in the case of Sixpoint the Crisp.
     
  2. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,233) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    A good Kolsch, Irish red ale, Vienna Lager, or English pale mild
     
  3. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I think a saison could be good, I don't know why I didn't think of that one
     
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  4. racer2k

    racer2k Pundit (895) May 21, 2004 Massachusetts

    IPL = The New Pale Ale?
     
  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Cool, thanks. I can get Bells in NY but haven't tried that one yet. My sister lives in Bethlehem, and will get beer for me from time to time, but there always seems to be something higher on my list than that Victory Lager.

    I also can get Sly Fox Helles in NJ, but have to be careful with the dates.
     
  6. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I think Yards is doing well enough with their Brawler- I've certainly seen it on taps here and there- so hopefully that's a start to acquainting people with the style.
     
  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I want to try it again.
     
  8. Flashy

    Flashy Pooh-Bah (1,767) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont
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    They are the flagship beers for High Point outta NJ.
     
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  9. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

  10. Malt_Man

    Malt_Man Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2014 England

    English pale ale / bitter / mild only truly work on cask, so without a fundamental step change in the US beer brewing and distribution system, these won't be the breakthrough ubiquitous styles. Kolsch and Altbier need 'lagering' to mature properly so adding cost on to the consumer for a relatively 'meh' beer (BA viewpoint, not mine). Most obvious shout is for the 'Imperial Lager' types, i.e., strong lagers with lots of hops; the bigger US craft brewers don't seem to have a problem with joining an arms race of ever higher ABV and hop additions.

    For a relatively economic to brew (and buy) style in the US that is not yet very popular, I submit Dampfbiers. Top fermenting, so extended lagering time not required, different from the current offering to get hipsters interested, and actually frigging tasty when done well.
     
  11. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, its doing well enough to be considered one of the flagship beers included in their Variety case available here in PA. I think their Philadelphia Pale Ale sells somewhat better, but the variety case is part of my regular rotation.
     
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  12. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    I guess I thought of Pilsners as the IPA of lagers, I doubt I could get my dad to drink an IPA or Jever, but I could definitely switch his Molson Canadian for Dortmunder Gold (dortmunder being similar to a helles) without him spitting it out.
     
  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Jever is on the hoppy end, even for German Pilsners. Maybe he'd appreciate something like Weihenstephaner's- that one has a fantastic Pils malt profile.
     
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  14. buzzedup

    buzzedup Savant (1,218) Dec 21, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Russian vodka infused with Russian Imperial Stout 40 ABV :O
     
  15. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    As some have suggested, the market wants hops right now, and hops it shall receive. That being said; rather, I'd really like to see some lager; but especially Vienna lager, Helles Lager, or maybe some different riffs on "American Pale Lager", a style wide open to interpretation and experimentation, which could have some tasty results.
     
  16. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    My observation of late is that many newer brewers actually are becoming less likely to even brew pale and brown ales in the first place. Sure it may make sense if the brewer has an opportunity to have a strong local presence off the bat (harder to do now with so much comp). I wouldn't be surprised for some to brew almost seasonally and take "hits" that make sense year round. Right now IPAs seem to be the new flagship for new brewers.

    Identity is also key. What do you want to do? Old Meck in Clt makes almost exclusively German styles and does it well.
     
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  17. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Maybe a Kolschbier-style ale brewed with rye and with a focus on Noble hops.

    (Hey! A German bier-lovin' nerd can dream a little, right?)
     
  18. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Been done. Won a GABF Gold Medal, too!

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  19. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    A versatile, quaffable, beer you can drink with just about any food...

    Gose
    Saison
    California common
    Kentucky common
     
  20. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    Ya see?!? Leinie's can brew other than Shandies! :wink:
     
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