The Order

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by CDBeerDisappear, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. CDBeerDisappear

    CDBeerDisappear Champion (899) Dec 28, 2005 Ohio
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    The way you perceive a beer is strongly influenced by the beer you drank before it. Talk amongst yourselves.
     
  2. bret27

    bret27 Savant (990) Mar 10, 2009 California
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    So if we start the evening with a couple Double hazy IPA’s our palettes are pretty much done for?
     
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  3. zid

    zid Meyvn (1,192) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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  4. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,805) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I usually drink only one beer on a given day. Problem solved.
     
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  5. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Aspirant (249) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    I disagree.

    talk amongst yourselves....
     
  6. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (7,361) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Also by what you've eaten or drank in the previous 4-8 hours.
     
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  7. thesherrybomber

    thesherrybomber Devotee (411) Jun 13, 2017 California
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    I thought this was common knowledge?
     
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  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (646) Mar 28, 2009 California

    It is.
     
  9. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,371) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    ... after having beer shits, I am not interested in another beer and the order is null and void.
     
  10. jonphisher

    jonphisher Aspirant (286) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Great minds drink alike

    But to address the thread I 100% agree. What you eat too, it’s very easy to mute flavors in beer. I never drink while eating cause of this too.
     
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  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,747) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think it's been proven that smell is involved in more of the taste process than your taste buds are, so drink in a neutral-smelling place.
     
  12. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (1,849) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    Maybe that explains where the mention of "cat piss" comes from in reviews... :grin:
     
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  13. laketang

    laketang Meyvn (1,266) Mar 22, 2015 Illinois
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  14. cavedave

    cavedave Poo-Bah (2,966) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    A change in overall diet also can result in reworking how we perceive the flavors we ingest. At any point our ability to taste is heavily influenced by the flavors we eat concurrently, the flavors we had a few minutes ago, and the general pattern of our diets. Changes to any of these will certainly result in changes of taste perception, including the taste of beer.
     
  15. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (813) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

  16. Sixpack595

    Sixpack595 Devotee (481) Dec 12, 2002 Michigan

    The same can be said regarding what you eat before trying a beer. I recently had a beer after eating a corned beef sandwich. The beer was decent, but I figured it deserved a clean tasting. A couple nights later I had it again and it wasn't nearly as good. Tasting notes: Flavor greatly improved by first consuming 1/2 lb of corned beef, two slices of dark rye, and several slices of Swiss cheese.
     
  17. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Defender (646) Mar 28, 2009 California

    but beer goes so well with food. Might change the flavor of the beer but in many cases it enhances the overall experience. Plus, I think it can bring out different flavors of the beer you don’t taste on a clean palate.

    Spicy food and an ipa = amazing!! Steak paired with a stout = soooo good! Sushi and a light lager, mmmmm. I could go on and on.
     
  18. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Poo-Bah (2,801) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I think it could have some effect, I wouldn't say a strong influence though. For me once I start drinking a beer my palate becomes assimilated to the flavors pretty quickly and whatever I had before that gets washed away. I've been at tastings where people serve lighter, paler and non-sour beers first which I mostly agree with, but if you are having a full glass of beer I don't think it really matters. You should be able to taste the new beer once you start drinking it. I don't think having a sour is going to taint all the other beers you drink after that, or having a stout is going to mess up your IPA after, etc.
     
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  19. jonphisher

    jonphisher Aspirant (286) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    that is true to I guess I just choose to enjoy one or the other. I guess it has been a while and I should give beer with food a try though. Thanks for the suggestion. The stout with steak does sound pretty tasty actually.
     
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  20. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Poo-Bah (2,709) Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    39 posts in 15 years. What an insightful contribution, sir. I'm inspired.

    I love you. :beers:
     
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  21. TheEpeeist

    TheEpeeist Devotee (466) Nov 5, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    when i have a number of new beers over a few days, or at a tasting, i try to differentiate between them with my ratings even if differences are small. i suppose some beers would get rated higher or lower as a result.
     
  22. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (8,654) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Think I'm covered since I've been drinking only one beer a week lately.
     
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  23. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,450) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I'll add medications and dentures to that as well. The missus has dentures and she has become incredibly more sensitive to bitter. No idea how that works - maybe the taste sense has been muted overall and bitter stands out more. Possibly the dentures affect the ability to detect the volatile flavors/aromas we normally "smell" during tasting.

    We've both experienced altered perception of taste and smell due to some medications as well. Thankfully short term, but we've noticed it several times.
     
  24. MNAle

    MNAle Poo-Bah (1,849) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota
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    I had a partial plate for awhile until I got implants, and having the plastic covering part of the roof of my mouth did definitely mute the complexity of my taste a noticeable amount.
     
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  25. JrGtr

    JrGtr Devotee (432) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    All else being equal, drinking a strongly flavored beer before a lighter one will absolutely affect how you taste the second - be it a hop bomb IPA (NE or otherwise) a big stout, (BBA or otherwise,) or a rauchbier, then going to a light Pils or Helles, you're not going to taste as much of the second one.
    Drink the lighter one first, then the bigger, that way you'll get a lot more of the lighter.
     
  26. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (125) Nov 5, 2019 Canada

    At the risk of sounding flaky, I think mood, activity, weather, etc. influence the taste of a beer as much as some other factors. I don’t think my go to IPA (Ransack The Universe) tastes the same on a -20 degree day in February as it does after yard work or a bike ride on a 30 degree day in July. Although, maybe, that’s just my wife’s yoga and meditation mindset rubbing off on me. Cheers.
     
  27. CDBeerDisappear

    CDBeerDisappear Champion (899) Dec 28, 2005 Ohio
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    I only meant this as it influences beer reviews. ABSOFUCKINGLUTEY, When you are just drinking for the joy of drinking, drink whatever you want, whenever you want! The point of my comment (in my own mind anyway) was to be careful about writing reviews on 2nd, 3rd, 4th ... beers. I'm not even trying to make a rule. Just a raising of awareness. If you reveiwed a beer and it wasn't your first of the day/evening then make it a point to try another one when it is your first and then go back to your review and double check it for accuracy.
     
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  28. CDBeerDisappear

    CDBeerDisappear Champion (899) Dec 28, 2005 Ohio
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    So, shoes on or shoes off?
     
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  29. CDBeerDisappear

    CDBeerDisappear Champion (899) Dec 28, 2005 Ohio
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    What the fuck does the number of my posts have to do with the validity of a point? Please respond to the argument without attacking the poster! Posters don't count for shit. It's the idea that matters.
     
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  30. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Poo-Bah (2,747) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It all depends on whether you've changed your underwear recently. :grin:
     
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  31. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Poo-Bah (2,371) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    This thread is fun. I don’t know anybody that likes beer though.
     
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  32. bubseymour

    bubseymour Poo-Bah (2,997) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    If you are going to do multiple beer reviews, IMO always have any light malty lagers or low hopped pale ales etc prior to really hoppy IPAs or high ABV beers of any style. High ABV beers seem immune in where in an order to drink them (to me anyway), but ligher ABV beers will seem like they lack both body and flavor if you sample them after more "extreme" beer styles. Haven't quite figured out where funky/sours fit in the mix of sampling order however.

    There have been many lagers/pale ales that I thought as a 1 and done review were really grainy/full bodied/malty etc. But following a BA quad or stout etc....same beer felt like drinking water almost.
     
  33. jonphisher

    jonphisher Aspirant (286) Aug 9, 2015 New Jersey
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    Alright @GetMeAnIPA you idea popped into my head today. We had salad for dinner tonight (yes we eat super early for dinner I know). But...it’s all fresh veggies and a vinaigrette dressing. I was like man a pils would go so well with this. It was perfect, acidity and brightness form the salad. Then a sip of refreshing crisp clean lager was a match made in heaven. I’m gonna start pairing more often now.