The Problem with American Craft

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JackRWatkins, Nov 18, 2014.

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  1. mccorvey

    mccorvey Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 North Carolina

    A better title would have been "A disturbing trend in the American Craft Brew industry"
     
  2. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    no one should be stressing here this is not the U.N. it's a friendly discussion, however, whoever france is in this, I vote against them
     
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  3. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    haha that title sounds a bit like a watchdog report on the local about the weird drugs or sex acts that kids are doing
     
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  4. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    Alarmist though the title may be, no one can deny that it got at least a few people's attention
     
  5. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    not to get all philosophic or anything but it's sometimes more important that we are thinking than it what we are thinking, the hope is that with intelligent discussion, insights will invariably come
     
  6. UrbanCaveman

    UrbanCaveman Pooh-Bah (1,866) Sep 30, 2014 Ohio
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    So that's why I see so many brewers whose favorite style is a kolsch or a pilsner. :wink:
     
  7. mccorvey

    mccorvey Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 North Carolina

    Ha Ha it does.
     
  8. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    smells like a burn
     
  9. mccorvey

    mccorvey Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 North Carolina

    The best part is that we have much better choices than we did years ago.
     
  10. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    as someone said earlier there has never been a better time to be a beer lover in the states
     
  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    France? Sorry, but the rails seem to be leading into the weeds. American craft beer is the healthiest it has ever been. There may be some inferior beers being produced, just stay away. The French sailed in at Yorktown after the brutal campaign that Cornwallis and crew had suffered at Guilford Courthouse. Their timing was instrumental in securing American independence as the British limped back to the coast. The French have long been great allies. French bashing is mindless.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you read all of the posts to this thread? Some folks would suggest that "much better choices" is not necessarily a good thing.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    the france thing was a joke so spare me the history lesson and put away your musket sir, take these things in the spirit with which they are intended
     
  14. DKollar21

    DKollar21 Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2013 Colorado

    I feel the same way recently. More on the note that breweries are making bitter/ hop forward ales with little flavor. Individuals who call themselves hop heads please chime in, what characteristics are you looking for in pales & IPAs? Fresh Squeeze is currently my favorite IPA because it's soooo different from the usual: "Hey, my beer is hoppy! Drink this!"
     
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  15. mccorvey

    mccorvey Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 North Carolina

    Yeah, I think you were right in that it must be an regional thing. I live in North Carolina and have no problems whatsoever finding world class brews. You just have to know what you are looking for and know where to find it.

    Not that you were expressing this view, but speaking of arguments earlier in this thread......I definitely don't agree with the argument that the market will become so saturated that "better" brewers will have problems selling their beer.
     
  16. Vogt52

    Vogt52 Initiate (0) May 25, 2014 Maryland

    While I agree to an extent, the high quality craft breweries don't do this. There are plenty of breweries out there with amazingly balanced and flavorful beers. Not to mention non hop forward beers
     
  17. soycory

    soycory Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2013 Kentucky

    I agree with the sentiment of the original post, but we all have the power to combat this with our purchases. Buy the beers you think are great, and not the others. In time, consumers will win out. The best will survive and the rest will fall off. Great Lakes, Founders, and Stone are examples of breweries that (IMO) do great work outside of the hop spectrum. As far as local, I buy a lot of local beer as long as it is fresh, good, and reasonably priced. I have my favorites...
     
  18. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    There was just a big announcement about "craft" brewers being active in pay-to-play schemes to get their beers sold since the desire for variety and the latest new thing has made tap and shelf space so rare.
     
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  19. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I think we should take it to the UN. Only then will I be satisfied. They'll surely get it right. No arguments here and I sorta knew you were kidding. Honestly, a touch of history need not be spared, sir. I need to work on my historical emoticons, maybe a George Washington head winking with a wry grin.
     
  20. mccorvey

    mccorvey Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 North Carolina

    How does the wine industry work? Just wondering. Do they have similar problems? Seems like a pretty similar industry.
     
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