The Science of Aging Beer?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by nloetz, May 30, 2012.

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  1. nloetz

    nloetz Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2005 Austria

    Can anyone explain scientifically what is happening when a beer ages?
     
  2. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Bottle-conditioned beers contain active yeast which are feeding on sugars and will ferment the beer as long as you store it, lending the beer new flavors and complexities as it ages.


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  3. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    "Active" yeast that continues to "ferment the beer" is more likely to result is broken bottles and a nasty mess on one's cellar floor. (Keep the heavy gloves and mop & bucket handy).
     
  4. Sneers

    Sneers Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Unless the beer contains some sort of bugs, this is false. Once the beer is fully fermented, there just aren't any sugars left for the yeast to consume.

    That said, I'd like to hear if anyone knows more about this subject as well.
     
  5. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Guess I was wrong. Can't win em all.

    Cheers!
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Here are some of the things that can happen...

    - The beer will oxidize if there is any O2 present
    - Phenols will drop out, leaving the beer less astringent
    - If fermentation byproducts (diacetyl, acetaldehydes, etc.) had not been cleaned up completely, and the aging beer is warm enough, the yeast (if present) may continue the cleanup
    - Yeast (if present) will continue to drop out of suspension
     
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  7. omnigrits

    omnigrits Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2006 Texas

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  8. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    From my limited experience the alcohol "bite" tends to fade in some high alcohol content beers over time. That's the main benefit I like.
     
  9. allforbetterbeer

    allforbetterbeer Savant (1,236) Sep 26, 2009 Colorado

    One of the reasons that the "bite" often fades (in my understanding) is that certain other alcohols that are present in very small quantities and are products of normal fermentation degrade over time in the bottle, thus taking away the "heat" aspect of the flavor that they can contribute. These alcohols can be deadly if concentrated, hence the warnings about distilling homebrew or any beer for that matter without the proper testing equipment.
     
  10. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Pretty sure James is partly right, I just bottled my first homebrew and it needs bottle conditioning so you put in extra sugars and the leftover yeast consumes this, creating CO2 and also changing the flavor over time. How long this can go on for, I'm not sure but you're right that only something like Brett can develop indefinitely as it ages.
     
  11. PGHbeer77

    PGHbeer77 Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Magic.
     
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  12. nloetz

    nloetz Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2005 Austria

    Where does that sohrgumy taste come from in really old beers?
     
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    nloetz Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2005 Austria

  14. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    A whole lot of chemical reactions.
     
  15. OtisCampbell

    OtisCampbell Zealot (622) Jun 7, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Here's a link to the original article for those of you at universities and in industry with access to ScienceDirect.. :grinning:

    One of the things I often wonder is if there is an optimal set of conditions to age gueuze at to maximize the funky / cheese rind charecter found in older bottles... is this age alone or a charecteristic of the individual batch?
     
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