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The White Whale List - 2012

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk' started by AgentZero, Dec 24, 2012.

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  1. AgentZero

    AgentZero Jul 19, 2009 Illinois

    Nah, I didn't take it that way, although people are free to poo poo it all they want. It's a fun exercise that only has as much meaning as someone wants to give it.
     
  2. pittsburghkid66

    pittsburghkid66 Dec 24, 2009 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    I personally don't like things like this per se, but I have to admit you guys did a good job. The only thing I get out of the list, however, is the desire to kick myself for trading so many of these away for things not on the list. God I am a terrible trader.
     
  3. Bluecane

    Bluecane Dec 30, 2011 New York

    What a fun list and thread; thanks to all involved!

    I'm only a year into this hobby and am just finishing grad school (see: lots of loans...), so I expect virtually every beer mentioned to be beyond my reach save for the generosity of others, such as Heatwave/Stephen, who gave me a generous pour of AB Huna, my only tick thus far.

    Nonetheless, I love this community, and I find fascinating learning more about and understanding the history and beers which helped lead to today's thriving craft scene. And since trade value truly is a subjective concept, this well-conceived list from BAs with such a vast depth of experience seems to me, for its purposes, to be pretty darn close to perfect.

    Again, thanks for the history lessons and learning experience that would have been virtually impossible to come across on my own.
     
  4. Corbet

    Corbet Nov 7, 2010 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    The biggest thing I took away from this list is Cantillon and Drie Fonteinen One-Offs = Whales.
     
  5. faithfriend123

    faithfriend123 Dec 28, 2012

    I would like to know which beer /beverage /juice company have plans to expand plant scales,anybody knows? very very very very appreciating that!!!
     
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  6. ChadQuest

    ChadQuest Mar 4, 2009 Illinois

    Yeah.......i guess i have drank more bottles of Wooden Hell then Cherry BCS though.

    Fuck this town, am i right?
     
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  7. waltersrj

    waltersrj Dec 16, 2010 Washington

    This really was fun to do, even though it was pretty tough to rank that many Whales. It really took a lot of time and a significant effort from all involved. Thanks to Mike and Jim for putting this together! I've had quite a few off this list and they all deserve to be on it. I know when I first joined BA, Jim's original list taught me quite a bit about whales and vintage beers I'd never heard of. Hopefully this will help some new BA's in the same way it helped me.

    Cheers,
    Ryan
     
  8. SpeedwayJim

    SpeedwayJim Jun 19, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    You're not very good at winning trades obviously.
     
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  9. flexabull

    flexabull Mar 9, 2006 California
    Beer Trader

    I found this one to be an interesting addition to the list, "Odonata Beer Company Rorie's Ale".
     
  10. callmemickey

    callmemickey Aug 12, 2007 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    This was a blast to participate in... even if it took me quite a bit of time to sort all of my ratings out.
     
  11. ChadQuest

    ChadQuest Mar 4, 2009 Illinois

    No JD Blackbeard?
     
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  12. Jeffo

    Jeffo Sep 7, 2008 Netherlands

    That was so my initial reaction when I saw the nominated beers...:D
     
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  13. slim2043

    slim2043 Jul 23, 2012 Connecticut

    I have not had any of these but I did take the time to read the thread. Send me some? Or at least one?
     
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  14. AgentZero

    AgentZero Jul 19, 2009 Illinois

    It's received a solid, low level buzz lately. Those who have decided to chase it have found it quite hard to locate. I was fortunate to sample some generously shared by dvelich and can say that it's a very good and unique beer.
     
  15. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Nooooo my only whale isn't a whale anymore!... It was nice to be ballin for a few weeks at least.
     
  16. flexabull

    flexabull Mar 9, 2006 California
    Beer Trader

    I only got to try their Saison, which was quite nice. Too bad those guys didn't make it...
     
  17. nanobrew

    nanobrew Dec 31, 2008 California

    summarization of the list:

    something
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    something
    something
    Cantillon
    something
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    .
    .
    .
     
  18. jegross2

    jegross2 Jan 3, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Interesting list. DO Kate was a mega-disappointment.
     
  19. goodbetterbestbested

    goodbetterbestbested May 10, 2012 California

    i swear half your posts are about how you didn't like double oaked kate
     
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  20. jegross2

    jegross2 Jan 3, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I'm pretty sure that's the second, maybe third, post i've ever mentioned that in.
     
  21. jp7161

    jp7161 Dec 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    Fixed it for you. For all the people that complain that Lost Abbey's beers are flat they sure have produced quite a few "walezbro"
     
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  22. waltersrj

    waltersrj Dec 16, 2010 Washington

    Lost Abbey has made quite a few awesome sours. It was as if Tomme looked at the beer, thought to himself "bubbles?", and then said, "ill never brew this rare beauty again!"
    On a more serious note...The list should read:
    Cantillon
    3 Font
    Cantillon
    3 Font
    Cantillon
    3 Font
    LA
    3Font
    Cantillon
    RR
    ...
     
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  23. Tnudish

    Tnudish Feb 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I tried making my rankings:

    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    3F
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    3F
    Cantillon
    3F
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    Cantillon
    3F

    But apparently my ranks were very different than everyone elses
     
  24. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I put all the Drie Fonteinen beers first and then all the Cantillon. When I ran out, I used random numbers. Is that not how I was supposed to do it?

    Seriously people...these are clearly two of the best breweries in the world. They make beers that age extremely well. Many of these beers are either really old or are only available in one or two bars across an ocean, or both. Did you really think many of their beers wouldn't top the list?
     
  25. yojimbo1

    yojimbo1 Feb 26, 2012 Kansas

    Good point. The list is dominated by sours which is probably the style that ages like no other. There are no ipas on the list. Why? Because you can't collect ipas.

    You can collect (some) sours with the expectation that you can hold onto it for as long as you want to and it'll probably still be awesome.
     
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  26. rmaste6282

    rmaste6282 Apr 30, 2009 California
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  27. rmaste6282

    rmaste6282 Apr 30, 2009 California
    Beer Trader

    In the first line of AgentZero's thread, he mentions SpeedwayJim, yet SpeedwayJim also has a White Whale list. Which one am I supposed to believe to be true? Last year (before these were updated), there was only one list to reference.
     
  28. stupac2

    stupac2 Feb 22, 2011 California
    Beer Trader

    o_O
     
  29. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Nov 26, 2008 California

    Dude, it's just a list that reflects the taste / desirability preferences of 2-3 tasting groups. There's no "absolute" and none of these lists are "right."
     
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  30. mulder1010

    mulder1010 Aug 29, 2008 Australia

    the one thing I suggest is to expand outside of Europe and US. Kind of an elitist list really. Then again if not in those two parts of the world then it does not matter really using BA thinking
     
  31. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts

    What non-Euro or US beers would you put on the list?
     
  32. MasterCraft

    MasterCraft Sep 2, 2012 Massachusetts

    Also, why is 50/50's Old Fitz on the list? Is it in reference to the 2007 release?
     
  33. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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  34. mulder1010

    mulder1010 Aug 29, 2008 Australia

    stuff from NZ or Australia that only a few have had.
     
  35. SpeedwayJim

    SpeedwayJim Jun 19, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    This. I would refer to the list references by AgentZero as its a compilation of opinion by me and a ton of people who know a lot more about rare beers than I do.
     
  36. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    You need to give yourself more credit :)
     
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  37. Sean9689

    Sean9689 Mar 17, 2009 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    Yes, it's referencing the old 2007 bottling...I think Mike needs to edit that.

    +1 Exactly, how could anything that is unknown and has very few ratings be on a list with all the top/hyped beers of all-time? Just doesn't make any sense. We aren't ignoring any beer or location. If it has very little popularity/news/ratings, how is any suppose to know about it?
     
  38. nanobrew

    nanobrew Dec 31, 2008 California

    I will ask again...

     
  39. evilc

    evilc Jan 27, 2012 California

    Canada doesn't even have anything?
     
  40. HenrikO

    HenrikO Jun 19, 2011 Sweden

    Dude, the one which has the most of _your cellar beers_ is obviously the one to believe. Duh.
     
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