The Yeast Bay: Saison Blend

For a "juicy/fruity saison" I like either 3726 or 3724 with some White Labs WLP644 (Brettanomyces Bruxellensis Trois). Haven't tried the Yeast Bay saison blend but will soon.

 

No, but I want to.

 

This. And dryhop it with something fruity. I like nelson with brett brux trois, but I think citra in small doses would be good as well.

 

Agreed. I've done both galaxy and nelson with BBT, and both came out great. Nelson was my fav of the two. Swear it tastes like a saison mixed with tropical fruit juice, in a good way.

 

Also, I've done both saison yeast + BBT with those hops, and just BBT as the only strain. They came out pretty similar because BBT takes over the flavor profile. The saison yeast + BBT was more complex, the BBT fermentation only was more fruity.

 

I've only used it in conjunction with dupont, and I still can't believe that I brewed that beer. Tastes like it came from a pro brewer.

 

Are you pitching both in the primary? Or the Brett in secondary? More details please

 

@SFACRKnight @od_sf Do you guys pitch these at the same time or pitch the Brett later??

Edit- sorry for the duplicate post.

 

I pitch them both into primary at the same time, no starters, just a vial of each. I picked the wlp saison 1 because it is notorious for stalling, allowing the brett to come in and finish the job. I start fermentation at 70, hold for two days and then start ramping up to 80 in 2 degree incriments daily. Once I hit 80 I hold it for a week or two. Once I took this to almost 90 and got some banana bombs, so I don't take it that high anymore. 80 seems to be my magic number.
On another note, a partial sour mash or a touch of aciduated malt may add a bit of tart to accentuate a "juicy" flavor.

 

Nick from The Yeast Bay here. kingJohnh, we have gotten a lot of really wonderful feedback on the Saison Blend from both homebrewers and craft brewers. It has a great balance of spiciness and tartness and a really nice ester profile of grapefruit and orange, and has a really nice dry finish. If you're looking for something with a nice fruity profile, try it out and I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

Cheers!

 

I will be brewing my Saison with the YB Saison Blend this weekend. I am going to dry hop, but cannot decide on which to use Amarillo or Nelson Sauvin. I'm leaning toward Nelson to try and get some tropical fruity goodness. Any suggestions?

 

I'd use both Amarillo and Nelson at 2:1. Sounds like a great idea

 

I made a hoppy Saison last summer using Danstar Belle Saison and late hopping (including dry hopping) with Amarillo. Amarillo provides a nice citrus flavor which complements the spicy (phenols) flavors that the Danstar Belle Saison yeast produced. That Saison turned out tasty to my palate.

I am not a fan of Nelson Sauvin hops since they provide an aroma/flavor that is unpleasant to my palate. A flavor of gooseberries?

Cheers!

 

Just spewed my Mountain Dew! It's *crushed cape* gooseberries...
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/pine-aroma.54269/#post-734323

 

Would dry hopping with under 1 oz. do any good? I can go to LHBS and grab another package, but I have 1 oz. of both and was going to drop in some late additions either 1/4 oz. or 1/2 oz. to help get up to roughly 30-31 IBU.

 

Just realize if you ordered today I believe yeast bay only ships mon-wednesday to ensure the yeast arrives healthy with no lay overs for weekends, so your order will ship out on monday I believe. (I learned this by emailing nick about it)

 

I think that mid 70's should be more than adequate. I fermented at 68-72 F and it was great! I do need to update some fermentation temps to reflect the success many have had using our Saison Blend, Saison/Brett Blend and Wallonian Farmhouse at higher temperatures of 75-78 F. I think people will like the higher temperature range (especially in the summer when controlling temp is harder) and I'll get fewer questions about whether their beer will turn out OK because their fermentation temp went outside of the "recommended" temperature range. Win/win!

Cheers John!