These Mass. breweries are now open for outdoor drinking

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  1. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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  2. braineater

    braineater Initiate (41) Dec 24, 2005 Massachusetts

    It's not. I believe they're another week or two away from opening.
     
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  3. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I don't know why Vanished Valley in Ludlow didn't make the list but they are definitely open for outdoor drinking and dining. They just did a total overhaul and now have a full restaurant that opened (with restrictions) this past week. You can even order from your phone while you are seated so you don't have to talk to a server. Pretty smart. Their menu looks insane but I have yet to try their food.
     
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  4. ichorNet

    ichorNet Poo-Bah (2,095) Mar 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Navigation in Lowell is not open yet, although I think their tent and outdoor area is set up. They're still doing to-go and have food trucks on site, but nothing in terms of actual on-site consumption yet.

    Also, The Tap in Haverhill is open. Went the other day and it was great. Recommended.
     
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  5. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Wachusett was great when I went during a slower time earlier in the week. Easy process and fast delivery of food and beers- I wonder how it is now that everyone knows it is open and it has been slamming busy for the few days. I went to Timberyard today- they had multiple seating areas in the sun and shade, I wish they had some music playing, but it was a nice place to have a beer as well.
     
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  6. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Have you checked out Oakholm yet? It is only 10 minutes from Timberyard. I got to-go beers last week that were better than I expected. They opened for onsite consumption yesterday. Food truck and live music today. People seemed to have had a good time. I can't speak to the amount of shade though.
     
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  7. thedaveofbeer

    thedaveofbeer Aspirant (293) Mar 25, 2016 Massachusetts
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    No I have not, but I will check them out the next time I pass through-thanks
     
  8. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    A friend of mine went to Lord Hobo in Woburn on Saturday. Limited beer list (3 on draft, about 10 or so cans), no food yet. Everything priced @ $8 (+ tax) in plastic cups. Hard pass, LH used to at least offer decent on-site pricing.
     
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  9. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    How'd they get away with no food?
     
  10. dele

    dele Initiate (113) Mar 13, 2019 Massachusetts

    So frustrating when brewers won't give you a little break for going straight to the source.

    When you go to a taproom, you're doing the brewer the enormous favor of letting them collect the entire price of the pint, instead of letting distributors and bars/restaurants take a cut. The least they could do is knock a buck off of what you'd pay elsewhere.
     
  11. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I feel like it is becoming more and more common too. I am talking pre covid. Not a good trend.
     
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  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Trillium Fenway is opening for patio draft service.

    Jack's Abby's beer garden is opening tomorrow as well.
     
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  13. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    I think it was a "soft" opening, whatever that is.
     
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  14. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Soft like mucus membranes. Let that Coronavirus right in.
     
  15. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Made a quick visit this afternoon to the recently reopened RiverWalk taproom in Newburyport. Had the whole place practically to myself as a private beergarden.

    They’ve made several improvements both indoor & on the patio, they are very serious about social distancing & compliance with rules (& strict use of masks indoors). During the lockdown they’ve installed some pizza ovens & want to really focus on it - didn’t try but looked good.

    Also installed an indoor/outdoor stage to have some live music.

    If anyone’s a little shy about going back out, I’d highly recommend a visit there. Impressed with how they reopened in what I consider a safe, responsible fashion.
     
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  16. forum8417

    forum8417 Initiate (155) Feb 1, 2011 New Jersey
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    How is Treehouse not offering on site pours yet for outside? Their setup is perfect for outside offerings.
     
  17. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Maybe they’re afraid of lines and crowds?

    They didn’t do curbside at first either.
     
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  18. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    It has to be this.
    They certainly could check all the boxes for opening requirements if they wanted to.
    It raises an interesting point though. Do they have a social obligation to stay closed beyond that of a typical Massachusetts brewery? If they follow all the state rules, it isn't really their fault if an outbreak is traced back to them.
     
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  19. RKP1967

    RKP1967 Disciple (319) Sep 26, 2010 Virginia

    Perhaps they could expand beyond doing on premises just two days a week? Thereby spreading the crowds out? Or just open for on premises on weekdays, thereby avoiding weekend crowds?

    I've never been to Tree House. We were planning on stopping by when we're on vacation up there in August. We still might. Were the Saturday crowds so bad that outdoor social distancing would be impossible?
     
  20. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    I don't know if I am reading this incorrectly but before covid they were open for pours every day of the week.
    Not a bad idea but weekends are their money maker. Plus I am sure it would upset a lot of people.
    Inside could be a bit chaotic for sure. If you took all those people and moved them outside it would definitely be tough to keep groups six feet apart. I think they would somehow have to limit capacity onsite.
     
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  21. BRYeleJR

    BRYeleJR Disciple (347) May 18, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I thought I recalled they were doing some construction near the entrance since they were doing curbside pickup only. Maybe it's done. My one trip there during all this was about a month ago now.
     
  22. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Well that’s the other thing, is on-site consumption their money maker?

    It’s selling cans out of the brewery I assume. You’re limited to two pours when you’re there, they can’t be making that much money. It’s almost partly just a courtesy rather than something they rely on.

    So if they don’t HAVE to do it, why risk it? In fact, one could argue they have less to gain than other breweries, because if there’s an outbreak, they’d have to shut down operations temporarily.
     
  23. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Good point.
    Now I am wondering how many people go there on a weekend, get two pours, and nothing to go.
    I am also wondering if there is a direct correlation between can and pour purchases. Would most people buy less cans if they know they are getting a couple of pours or are most of the pour purchases just a bonus.
     
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  24. RKP1967

    RKP1967 Disciple (319) Sep 26, 2010 Virginia

     
  25. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    The asterisk is an important distinction. If I remember correctly it states, if the line is long they will wait until they get through it before offering pours. To the best of my knowledge, they have never not (double negative) offered pours.
     
  26. Shyla987

    Shyla987 Initiate (133) Jul 18, 2013 Connecticut

    Could be, but also could be they don't want to risk adding more staff now to support pours, or staff don't want to come back to work. A friend manages a restaurant/bar in CT and they are struggling to open. They can't get people to come back to work, because 1) some don't want to risk it, and 2) they're getting enough money from unemployment combined with the weekly federal stimulus of $600. The latter ends July 31st so we'll see if that changes.
     
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  27. darkandhoppy

    darkandhoppy Aspirant (204) Dec 26, 2008 Connecticut

    re:TH, parking and traffic control.

    The notion that following state guidelines somehow absolves one of responsibility if an outbreak it traced to your business is a little odd to me. Just because a business follows rules doesnt mean their customers will. Go to any grocery store and watch how poorly people follow the rules.
     
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  28. YourDigitalGrave

    YourDigitalGrave Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2019 Massachusetts

    Is that the grocery store's fault though?
    I am genuinely curious how people are leaning.
     
  29. forum8417

    forum8417 Initiate (155) Feb 1, 2011 New Jersey
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    Have you been to a Home Depot recently?
     
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  30. jbertsch

    jbertsch Poo-Bah (1,594) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    I haven't been inside but I often drive by the one near me and am astounded that it looks like a world convention in the parking lot.
     
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  31. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Nope. But I was talking about Tree House being concerned about crowds and lines. There are some people that clearly have no issue with crowds right now.
     
  32. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

  33. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    And....no sooner than I post the TX news, FL has banned bars from serving alcohol on premises state-wide (including brewery taprooms). Assume restaurants are next.

    AZ - you next?
     
  34. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, I saw this coming when they just decided to open fully like the virus was gone and we conquered it.

    Dining and drinking indoors in general, even intelligently, is going to be tough. Outdoors should be ok though.
     
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  35. bostonwolf

    bostonwolf Initiate (127) Jan 20, 2015 Massachusetts

    Burke's Alewerks in Hanover has a tented biergarten up and running .
     
  36. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Been few times now to the expanded patio @ Silvaticus in Amesbury. Of course I love their beer, but they’ve really set up a nice <safe> outdoor Biergarten that even the COVID-shy folks shouldn’t have a problem with. Plus they have their Oblivion dark coffee lager back on tap which is quite delicious.
     
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  37. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    How's the set up?

    Notch's is the only one I've been to, but it's the safest I've heard of, being completely contactless.
     
  38. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Aspirant (277) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)
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    I’d be interested to know this too. I was considering heading to Silvaticus either this week or next. Probably just to pick up and go but it’d be nice to sit and have one.
     
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  39. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,943) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    At Notch there's virtually no difference between picking up cans to go and a draft.

    Except you don't take the draft "to go", you just go sit at a table by yourself. I've said this before, but I REALLY hope they keep this system, because then it cuts WAY back on lines.
     
  40. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Defender (669) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    Several picnic tables on the patio & expanded on to the sidewalk for barstools/barrels (for solo folks and parties of two). Plenty of shade to beat the heat and seats are well spaced out. Everything's table service by servers wearing masks and gloves. Also, name and # are taken for contact tracing. Strict mask policy for when away from table and using the restroom indoors.
     
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