Thick Stouts vs. Thin Stouts

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  1. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Can anyone post the final gravity of some popular stouts? Is that available anywhere?
     
  2. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    Some oatmeal stouts are thinner and more carbonated as well such as Breckenridge's oatmeal stout----which I might add is also pretty good. That said give me Even More Jesus or my personal soft spot Black's Dawn from Cismontane. Excellent stuff.
     
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  3. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Thinner. I like the porter as a thinner style, the foreign extra stout at it's high abv already. I like the roastier bitter flavors and the earthy coffee and chocolate too. caramel is ok but soft and not too much. I think there can be full malty flavor without a lot of sugar too and I dislike the sweet stout as a style. . I think the sugary finish really makes a difference to me. The irish dry stout is a house favorite and so is the oatmeal stout. Which so light compared to the thick big abv stouts.
     
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  4. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Yes, I've always been curious why the Evil Twin Stouts (and Lil B "porter":wink:) are so much thicker and syrup-y than the competition. They are a little sweeter, but they also have a smoky note, either some smoked malt or jus that perception from the roast. Stillwater On Fleek is another new one that's really thick in the Expedition/Ten Fidy realm.
     
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  5. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    Maybe try scouring a few places (clone recipes, brewery websites, etc.) for that information. Or you have the O.G. and the alcohol percentage you can calculate the F.G. that way as well. Or next time you have one of your favorites, buy a hydrometer and a test tube and check it yourself (or use a refractometer...you use less beer to test, but they cost more $).That's how lots of people start to clone a recipe. If it's 12% and has a final gravity of xxxx, then you can calculate the original gravity. This works most of the time except with some bourbon barrel aged stouts. Sometimes they pick up a few % alcohol from the barrel itself (KBS said to be an example of this).

    For some commercial examples:

    BCBS: 1.040
    Parabola: 1.035
    Dark Lord: 1.054
     
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  6. zizouandyuki

    zizouandyuki Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2015 Texas

    These are FG figures from clones and not the actual brewery, correct?

     
  7. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    Dark Lord is from a published BYO clone recipe. BCBS was from a hydrometer reading of actual BCBS. Parabola says the O.G./F.G. on the bottle in degrees Plato/Brix( a simple conversion can tell you the gravity in decimal form).
     
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  8. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    I eagerly await the following 2 styles: Peanut Butter Thin Stout and Russian Imperial Thick Porter.
     
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  9. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    Like I said... not really sure why OP believes Parabola to be thin, as that doesn't seem to be the experience of anyone else. Or science apparently.
     
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  10. zizouandyuki

    zizouandyuki Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2015 Texas

    Thanks. Didn't realize FW published the FG on some bottles. Strange that some have it and others don't.

    Looks like 2016 is on the thicker side compared to 2013/14: 8.6*P vs 7*P

     
  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    If it's not thick it's thin, seems pretty clear cut to me :wink:.
     
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  12. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    For my taste, and compared to many other stouts, I find it to be thin.
     
  13. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    Thank you, Captain Obvious :wink:
     
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  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Ummm, are you talking beer or something else? :wink:
     
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  15. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Only stuff that matters :wink:
     
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  16. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I am neutral on this one, so long as it tastes great I don't care how thick or thin it is. I actually think thin is better since its easier to drink than a thicker beer. Great answers above, very good info on how it all works.
     
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  17. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I don't mind a thin good-tasting stout but really prefer thick and chewy good tasting examples, such as Big Sky Ivan The Terrible.
     
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  18. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    note that you need to let the beer sample go flat.
     
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  19. zizouandyuki

    zizouandyuki Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2015 Texas

    Adding on to that: Sample should be at the temp for which the hydrometer is calibrated (or use a calc for temp adjustment).
     
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  20. flaskman

    flaskman Pundit (985) Aug 3, 2015 New York

    If anyone feels they are stuck with a lousy stout due to the mouth feel I will be happy to take it off your hands :stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue: especially if it's bourbon barrel.
     
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