thin krausen

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  1. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    brewed this sunday...

    1lb 10oz belgian pilsner
    6oz flaked rice
    1oz acid malt
    1oz sucrose
    .5oz galaxy
    25g 3724 yeast

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    the krausen's unusually thin. sign of anything? more info needed?
     
  2. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    You pitched a ton of yeast for that size of batch, it's possible fermentation already happened. What's the trub layer look like? Do you have a refractometer for gravity readings? I'd hate to suggest a hydrometer reading given the 1 gallon batch size.
     
  3. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    Too much yeast? Wyeast pack comes with 125 grams (at least the pack i measured) so divided that by five... bad move? Took a gravity reading pre-pitch and I'll get back to you. I brewed 3 batches this weekend.

    NOTE: Other two batches had normal krausen w/ same amount of yeast.
     
  4. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I was thinking 10-11g was standard for one dry packet which is suitable for 5 gal of low-moderate gravity beer when rehydrated.

    Two questions:

    Is the layer of trub larger now than it was half an hour after pitching the yeast?

    Do you have a refractometer?
     
  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    I see this every time I use 3724 (Dupont dregs). I'll put 5 gallons in a 6.5g primary and the high-krausen mark may be all of 1.5" . . . yet the yeast does it's job, I get super attenuation. So I say it's normal. Your other two batches . . . different yeasts?

    With 3724 I believe you're talking liquid yeast and your reference to 25g may be a little confusing. With liquids it's usually referred to as 25ml (which of course is 25g). By pitching 1/5 of a liquid yeast packet into 1 gallon of wort you are in the ballpark if the yeast was fresh. You have the date of the packet?
     
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  6. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Good catch, I saw 25g and assumed a dry yeast
     
  7. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Refractometers don't work once fermentation has begun, as they can't accurately read alcohol. Unfortunately a hydrometer is the only way to go at this point. If the OP is confident in his/her sanitary practices, they could put the sample back in the fermenter.
     
  8. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    I'd let it roll and not worry too much about the krausen level. Take a gravity reading in a week, and if nothing really happened, I'd re-pitch. It's possible that your yeast wasn't totally viable.
     
  9. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    they work fine if you know the OG
     
  10. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Please explain, cause this would be great to know! I tried once, and there was no line. The whole thing was blurry.
     
  11. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    It's possible there was an air bubble or the cover wasn't completely seated. There should be a line with an adequate light source. There are online calculators to correct for the alcohol content, one being:

    http://www.brewersfriend.com/refractometer-calculator/
     
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  12. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    This is fantastic! Thanks! I'll have to try it out. I wonder how accurate it is.
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The best standalone refractometer calculator I've used is Sean Terrill's. Here's an on-line version...http://seanterrill.com/2012/01/06/refractometer-calculator/
    There's lots of good information about refractometers and the corrections needed to make them useful for beer on his site.
    Sean's model is excellent, but in order for it to be as accurate as possible, you have to get the Wort Correction Factor (WCF) right.

    Sean's model is also incorporated into BrewCipher, with a slight modification - an automatically calculated recommended WCF, based on the expected attenuability from the recipe. This recommendation can be overridden, using Sean's recommended default WCF or any WCF you like.
     
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  14. MarriedAtGI

    MarriedAtGI Zealot (569) Feb 26, 2013 Illinois

    For the blurry line problem, put your sample through a paper coffee filter before measuring. My lines are very sharp after I do that.
     
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  15. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    OG: 1.050 when beersmith predicted 1.055. Does this mean it will finish as an Oscar Blues-ish stout?

    I honestly don't know.

    No.
     
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