Thomas Hardy Ale..question

'Brewdog'.....they have the flexibility and skills though i doubt they would be bothered......i doubt anyone else would even consider doing it.......even O'Hanlons said it was a loss making beer when they resurrected it from 2003-2008...in 2009 O'Hanlon's announced that production of it was to cease due to the time and expense of production!...let that be a hint i guess...

 

Heres some interesting reading on this beer and some insights into its possible production if ever it was brewed again....

http://www.thestar.com/article/644389--brewery-closes-the-books-on-thomas-hardy-s-ale

 

Haha

"skills"

It's not cool enough for them to make a mediocre ale and say that the only reason people don't think it's brilliant is that they're not ready for the punk revolution and blah blah bollocks like that.

 

Absolutely agree. The skill I associate them with is the ability to make high ABV beers taste like those of half the strength.I tried their Double IPA from Tesco last summer expecting fireworks and got a damp squib.

 

The rights to brew have been purchased by an overseas brewer who are currently investigating the purchase of a UK brewery.

 

so wrong, unless you mean the flexibility to get Meantime to brew for them?

 

They do the occasional really nice beer, but it's just too hit-and-miss for me to be able to call them skilled brewers.

 

Well apart from you lot taking the proverbial piss..who DO YOU suggest...'Fullers' are another potential option ....but i doubt it..the list is endless...but it wont happen unless its economically viable..


AND Brewdogs Hardcore IPA is a great beer! backed up by lots of positive reviews on this site which rate it exceptional!..so whoever slags it off is a bit sad and in the minority there!...

There are far worse breweries out there than Brewdog....and brewing Thomas hardys ale isnt rocket science!..any decent home brewer could easily accomplish it if they knew the exact ingredients used!...shows how much you all know about brewing beer!

This is about the economics of brewing this beer and making it profitable!...any brewer with half a brain could brew it!...BUT The rights to the original recipe and the name are owned by U.S. importer George Saxon, who had bought the rights to the beer from the original brewer Eldridge Pope... So unless someone can strike a deal with him it wont happen...Fullers already said they will do it if they can use their own name..so it wouldnt really be Thomas Hardy Ale then would it!..why would they want to brew it and pay Saxon easy money and yet it not even be a fullers branded product......


HEY HERE'S A SIMPLE SUGGESTION FOR YOU LOT OF WHINNYING OLD WOMEN....instead of just taking the piss out of my suggestion..may i suggest that you READ the original question in the original thread and OFFER your OWN original opinions on that!..all you seem capable is to digress from the original question and slag Brewdog off!..that's not contributing ANYTHING to this thread is it!...

 

You're not contributing either, acting like what internet goers might term , a "butthurt" brewdog fanboy.

And on the contrary, the fact that you think using the same recipe will lead to exactly the same beer shows how little you know about brewing.

 

Someone's got his panties in a bunch this morning! Chin up, it will all be ok!

 

An Italian company - described as "a brewery holding, founded in 2009" - called Brew Invest has already struck a deal with Saxon, and they now own brand. http://www.thomashardysale.com/wordpress/gallery/

Bitterbill's OP is based on that new ownership and their hunt for a new contract brewer in the UK:

http://www.thomashardysale.com/wordpress/the-legend-is-back/​

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...as being discussed over in the "Beer News" forum - Thomas Hardy's Ale making another comeback

 

If selling for almost 10 dollars a bottle isn't profitable, I don't know what is

Edit: How is JW staying in business? I find JW a tad better than Thomas Hardy but that might just be the individual taste.

 

I'd say Black Sheep would take a respectable whack at getting this beer going again.

Now that I've offered my own opinion, I'll tell coltsr2 that he shouldn't judge a Scottish brewery based on the ratings that they get from a US website. They have fairly high ratings for some of their beers because they appeal to the Americans' coarsely developed palates that demand to have the top of their heads blown off or it isn't worth drinking. Subtlety and nuance of craftsmanship are not appreciated currently in the states, so do not equate a high score here with an unarguably good beer or a skillful brewer.

 

that made me chuckle. You should take it up professionally.

 

While I am neither American nor English/Scot, it seems to me that Brewdog tries very hard (and fails) at beating American style beers at their own game.

 

That's about right, though it's more like sucking up and riding on the success of American style craft than competing.

Happily though, there are lots of newer brewers from England, Scotland and Wales who do a great job with craft brewing.

 

Punk IPA is as good as most 5/6 % ABV American IPA's I've had, and better than quite a few.

I don't think they necessarily try hard, nor do they fail !

 

I think with hardcore they failed. Compared to great US style DIPAs I've had it was disgusting! Give me Victory Hop Wallop, DFH 90 Min or Tiny Rebel Hadouken any day of the week over that.

That said, 5am, Punk, 77 Lager were all solid beers. Nothing spectacular though.

 

When we tried 5 am Saint we couldn't finish it between us. Considering it was one of those derisory 330 ml "toy" bottles that's saying something.
77 Lager tasted like a 3.5% light mild (see my review)
Hardcore and Trashy Blonde missed the target by a mile.Very average.
Rip Tide Stout was all initial impact, lacked body and aftertaste.Where did the 8.5% ABV go? Could have been 5%.
My abiding impression of the beers -they simply don't fight their weight , pleasant enough but basically unimpressive and outclassed by breweries who just get on with brewing without all the singing and dancing.