Thoughts on this IPA plan?

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  1. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I was thinking of brewing my first ipa soon.
    o.g. 1.062
    92% 2 row
    4% cara 40
    4% carapils
    mash at 150

    magnum or hop shot at 60 minutes to 60 ibus

    5 minutes add an ounce of citra, an ounce of galaxy, and an ounce of amarillo.

    dry hop in last couple of days of primary with 2 ounces of the above.

    us 05

    thoughts?
     
    #1 ghostinthemachine, Dec 17, 2015
  2. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I've never used the hop shot but I've heard a lot of people complain that it adds an off flavor they can't put they're finger on. So I personally would just bitter with magnum. That's a nice simple recipe and will yield a nice beer. Hopping is low to really be called an IPA IMO but it sounds like a great Hoppy pale ale.


    Brewing with just tap water? How many batches have you made??
     
    #2 psnydez86, Dec 17, 2015
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  3. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    Should I bitter more or throw another ounce in at flame out?

    I use tap water with a bit of acid malt. Worked well for a couple of pale ales using the malts in this recipe. I have brewed about 10 all grain batches and they were all pretty good. Won gold in a competition with a saison I brewed. The fault in the beers I brew is that they may not be the style I was planning on but there are no off flavors from faulty process.
     
    #3 ghostinthemachine, Dec 17, 2015
  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    60 IBUs from the hopshot would be fine to me. I would think of adding another 3 oz of the 5 min hops at flameout.
    From your mash temp, I assume you are going for a dry IPA, given that assumption, I would drop the carapils. I would drop the carapils regardless, but in this case it is likely counterproductive.

    Fermentation temp?
     
    #4 wspscott, Dec 18, 2015
  5. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I am going for a dry IPA. I use the same mash bill for my pale ales and really like how they turn out. I was thinking of adding a little bit of wheat to this ipa but i may play safe. I ferment us-05 at 68 degrees. So 6 ounces of hops in the last 5 minutes?
     
    #5 ghostinthemachine, Dec 18, 2015
  6. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Depends on what you are going for. The recipe you posted looks solid. Should drink pretty easy with some hops in the nose. I wouldn't bitter anymore. My hoppy beers often have 4-9 oz' of hops at FO and 4-9 oz in the dry hops. I love hoppy beer to smell like a bag of hop pellets.
     
    #6 psnydez86, Dec 18, 2015
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    If you want dry, I would sub wheat for the carapils or just drop it. I personally don't see the point of carapils (in general, not just your beer), but that is just me :slight_smile:
     
    #7 wspscott, Dec 18, 2015
  8. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    What does the wheat do differently? I changed my recipe to wheat because I already know what carapils does and i like to experiment lol. Just curious. I liked how my pales with carapils turned out.
     
    #8 ghostinthemachine, Dec 18, 2015
  9. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Honestly, I could not say what the difference is :slight_smile: I have only used carapils a couple times and decided it was easier to adjust mash temps. Lots of people go with a little bit of wheat in APA/IPA for head retention, but I would guess it doesn't have the same effect on the body as carapils. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

    If you want to experiment, I have liked C20 in IPAs. I think you can bump the percentage a little bit more (6-7%) than C40 without it coming across as sweet, if you did this, I would definitely drop the carapils. You might also want to play with Honey Malt.
     
    #9 wspscott, Dec 18, 2015
  10. suavo

    suavo Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2014

    I like the grist...and I like the carapils
    + 3 oz of those hops at flame out and 3 more dry hop...
     
    #10 suavo, Dec 18, 2015
  11. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    My only problem with doing that is that i'm a poor college student trying to get the most booze for my buck lol. It's already a pricey beer due to the hops.
     
    #11 ghostinthemachine, Dec 18, 2015
  12. suavo

    suavo Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2014

    Then...the original recipe will make a very nice pale ale...
     
    #12 suavo, Dec 18, 2015
  13. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I'm using the same grain percentages and upping the gravity and the hops.
     
    #13 ghostinthemachine, Dec 18, 2015
  14. AlHounos

    AlHounos Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2015 California

    Time to start ordering hops in bulk. That and repitching yeast will keep costs down.
     
    #14 AlHounos, Dec 18, 2015
  15. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    If you are going to brew an IPA, you should do it "right". If anything think of how much a similar beer would cost if you bought a 6 pack.

    If you are going to brew more APA/IPAs then you should definitely not be buying hops by the ounce. There are places that sell 1/4 and 1/2 pound bags of hops, I would look into those for the future.
     
    #15 wspscott, Dec 18, 2015
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  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    If I'm reading his recipe correctly he is already dry hopping with six ounces? That seems ample to me
     
    #16 jlordi12, Dec 18, 2015
  17. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I read it as a total of 2 ounces vs. 3 x 2 ounces.
     
    #17 wspscott, Dec 18, 2015
  18. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    Ok so here is what I have decided. I bought the hops yesterday. Magnum at 60 to 50 IBUs. 3 ounces of galaxy at 5 minutes. an ounce of citra and an ounce of amarillo at FO. 2 ounces of citra and amarillo dry hop for 5 days.
     
    #18 ghostinthemachine, Dec 19, 2015
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  19. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Any reason you don't want to use an ounce of the galaxy to dryhop? Take 1/2 ounce of amarillo and citra from the dryhop and sub in galaxy. I'm not saying you should do this, but when I use 3 different hops like this, I tend to use them all together vs. split up.
     
    #19 wspscott, Dec 19, 2015
  20. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I didnt have any reason to not use galaxy. I guess I should have. I can still buy an ounce of galaxy and throw it in if I feel like it. This probably wont be the only time I use these hops in a beer though. I like to use the same hops but change when I add which to see what the taste difference is
     
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